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The State of the Game

Quicky

Quicky

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This is a thread to discuss the state of the game. We all know the challenges. How do we move through them to grow the game in Australia.
 
I love this so much from Stajcic:
football360.com.au

Every word of Alen Stajcic's epic post-Derby speech that's got Australian football talking

After claiming a 1-0 win in the Sydney Derby, Western Sydney Wanderers boss Alen Stajcic delivered an epic press conference speech on the state of Australian football. Here’s every word he said.
football360.com.au football360.com.au

I'm so sick of the infighting and negativity. It only serves everyone else but football or those with vested interests. Time to mend bridges. Time to promote the good in the game.
 
Quicky said:
I love this so much from Stajcic:
football360.com.au

Every word of Alen Stajcic's epic post-Derby speech that's got Australian football talking

After claiming a 1-0 win in the Sydney Derby, Western Sydney Wanderers boss Alen Stajcic delivered an epic press conference speech on the state of Australian football. Here’s every word he said.
football360.com.au football360.com.au

I'm so sick of the infighting and negativity. It only serves everyone else but football or those with vested interests. Time to mend bridges. Time to promote the good in the game.
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NRL personality Andrew Voss chipping in w/his 2¢ on #SokkahTwitter(he was mentioned by Staj also):



and then the OG A-Liga commentator for Fox Sports, Neil Evans:

 
I mean this thread is like every other thread on here. We know what works and doesn't work it's the admin that have made so many mistakes that have lead us here.

Piss off Conroy and bring in someone with passion 🔥
 
Quicky said:
I love this so much from Stajcic:
football360.com.au

Every word of Alen Stajcic's epic post-Derby speech that's got Australian football talking

After claiming a 1-0 win in the Sydney Derby, Western Sydney Wanderers boss Alen Stajcic delivered an epic press conference speech on the state of Australian football. Here’s every word he said.
football360.com.au football360.com.au

I'm so sick of the infighting and negativity. It only serves everyone else but football or those with vested interests. Time to mend bridges. Time to promote the good in the game.
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How, but shutting everyone you dont like out of it? THATS what AFL and NRL do, and its working for them....
 
Montemurro agrees with Stajcic's comments:

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2.1K views · 492 reactions | Matildas coach Joe Montemurro has followed up Alen Stajcic’s impassioned post-Sydney Derby plea on the state of football in Australia, calling for unity. Stajcic made headlines with his post match press conference after

Matildas coach Joe Montemurro has followed up Alen Stajcic’s impassioned post-Sydney Derby plea on the state of football in Australia, calling for unity. Stajcic made headlines with his post match...
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Quicky said:
I love this so much from Stajcic:
football360.com.au

Every word of Alen Stajcic's epic post-Derby speech that's got Australian football talking

After claiming a 1-0 win in the Sydney Derby, Western Sydney Wanderers boss Alen Stajcic delivered an epic press conference speech on the state of Australian football. Here’s every word he said.
football360.com.au football360.com.au

I'm so sick of the infighting and negativity. It only serves everyone else but football or those with vested interests. Time to mend bridges. Time to promote the good in the game.
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Thanks for putting it up, Q.

I saw the game, which had a great atmosphere, but didn't hear this interview.

Stajcic raises a lot of good points about the positives of football.
 
Quicky said:
Montemurro agrees with Stajcic's comments:

www.facebook.com

2.1K views · 492 reactions | Matildas coach Joe Montemurro has followed up Alen Stajcic’s impassioned post-Sydney Derby plea on the state of football in Australia, calling for unity. Stajcic made headlines with his post match press conference after

Matildas coach Joe Montemurro has followed up Alen Stajcic’s impassioned post-Sydney Derby plea on the state of football in Australia, calling for unity. Stajcic made headlines with his post match...
www.facebook.com www.facebook.com
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Same again.

Positives listed by Joe M.
 
Quicky said:
I mean we know that's a mistake. I'd like to bring everyone back together. I think we need to mend relationships and work towards pro-rel. Inspite of the APL, State Feds etc. if need be.
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well Quicky, Middy makes mention many a time about the word "respect".
As we know there is alot more in between but that word for one is a big one.
Put my hand up I'm guilty not giving AL respect for the main game we live and breath locally was cast aside and lets face it treated like a POS and worse been poisoned impregnated into the following gens who hardly had any idea or clue.
Then thereis the belittling about lack of crowds because thats the main directive of a franchise business is numbers.
Thats not football when your looking to grow support eh.
I'm all with you about improving our game top to bottom but were in a bermuda triangle kind of situation.
Its great to see these guys bringing up the elephants in the room to a degree.
 
melbcityguy said:
Piss off Conroy and bring in someone with passion 🔥
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I think his input might be a bit misunderstood. If it weren't for his immediate austerity measures then I reckon the league might've collapsed by now. He probably comes across as the bad guy for that, but at least there doesn't seem to be BS from him like Townsend. Just my impression of him, I think he's halted and hopefully reversed the kamikaze downtrend.

He's definitely not the front man or media spokesperson type, we need someone else for that because it's seriously lacking.
 
HappyGuus said:
I think his input might be a bit misunderstood. If it weren't for his immediate austerity measures then I reckon the league might've collapsed by now. He probably comes across as the bad guy for that, but at least there doesn't seem to be BS from him like Townsend. Just my impression of him, I think he's halted and hopefully reversed the kamikaze downtrend.

He's definitely not the front man or media spokesperson type, we need someone else for that because it's seriously lacking.
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Ok interesting. Do you have any specific examples of what he did to steady the ship?
 
LFC said:
well Quicky, Middy makes mention many a time about the word "respect".
As we know there is alot more in between but that word for one is a big one.
Put my hand up I'm guilty not giving AL respect for the main game we live and breath locally was cast aside and lets face it treated like a POS and worse been poisoned impregnated into the following gens who hardly had any idea or clue.
Then thereis the belittling about lack of crowds because thats the main directive of a franchise business is numbers.
Thats not football when your looking to grow support eh.
I'm all with you about improving our game top to bottom but were in a bermuda triangle kind of situation.
Its great to see these guys bringing up the elephants in the room to a degree.
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We will get respect in the greater Australia sporting scene when, and only when, we either host the Mens World Cup or we go very deep into the tournament - top 4. Until then we will just be a minor sport at the top level but the largest sport at the grass roots.

I can't see the top 4 happening in my lifetime (but please surprise me Poppa) so I think we need to look at hosting again.

We have to target 2038. By 2042 a lot of confederations will be able to bid again. However in 2038 only CONCACAF and OFC can bid. We would need to have an exemption to bid. However, this could be forthcoming if it is packaged as a OFC led South Pacific bid aided by the AFC.

These 7 stadiums fit the existing criteria(or will), though I would be looking to upgrade the Auckland stadium to 60,000 people which has been done before.

Perth, MCG, Lang Park, Victoria Park, Allianz, Homebush & Auckland

8 --The remaining 7 - start with NZ. The new Christchurch stadium is upgradeable to 40,000. This ensures that NZ can host between 19 and 25 matches and ensures it is not just a token contribution as it would be with a joint US NZ bid.

The remaining upgrades and builds to be done after the Brisbane Olympic stadium builds and will only be made if the bid is successful.

9 - minor upgrade as per bid for 2022 bid add 6000 to Newcastle stadium (NRL would support)

10 - Take the opportunity to expand MRS stadium to 50,000 (NRL would support)

11- Robina to expand to 40,000 (NRL would support)

12 - Canberra (new build 40,000) on AIS campus, current stadium needs to be replaced. (NRL would support) Current plans are for a lesser stadium but a larger modern stadium can attract more events, concerts, conferences etc and make it a more viable proposition as a community asset.

13. Perry Park - needs to be added to the Olympic build as a 27,000 stadium expandable with 13,000 temp stands for the World Cup.

14. The missing piece. Adelaide. Coopers is too small, Adelaide Oval needs a lot of work to upgrade. Riverside West precinct is being earmarked as a urban redevelopment area. A new 40,000 stadium to be the centrepiece. Good for football but also good for NRL expansion,

So assume all of this could be done why would FIFA pick Aus/NZ over CONCACAF.
1) In the last 60 years only Brazil, Argentina and South Africa have hosted a World Cup in the southern hemisphere.
2) Oceania has never hosted a World Cup, this is their only chance to at least co-host one.
3) USA, if they host would have hosted 3 times in 42 years.
4) Visa issues will likely be problematic in 2026 - so will FIFA prefer to avoid that again.

Time zones form Auckland to Perth can cater for varying markets. Perth in Particular can cater for the growing middle class in the two most populous countries in the world as well as a football mad 4th largest in Indonesia. Large global FIFA sponsors will still be interested in these markets and Indian, Chinese, Japanese and Indonesian sponsors would also be interested with this time zone.

At the end of the day an Aus/NZ bid could win, but to give a greater chance then including Jakarta would increase the chances and maybe we could lose victory Park
 
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Stefan suggested fan protests and organizing. Is it possible to organize via the forum?
 
LFC said:
well Quicky, Middy makes mention many a time about the word "respect".
As we know there is alot more in between but that word for one is a big one.
Put my hand up I'm guilty not giving AL respect for the main game we live and breath locally was cast aside and lets face it treated like a POS and worse been poisoned impregnated into the following gens who hardly had any idea or clue.
Then thereis the belittling about lack of crowds because thats the main directive of a franchise business is numbers.
Thats not football when your looking to grow support eh.
I'm all with you about improving our game top to bottom but were in a bermuda triangle kind of situation.
Its great to see these guys bringing up the elephants in the room to a degree.
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I think you hit on the most important thing. Respect is required. There's too little of it.

I sometimes catch myself reading posts from supporters of NPL teams and think the victim attitude is tedious. Then I think who the fuck am I to judge. They've been treated awfully and I can only really appreciate that in the most superficial kinda way. It's not helpful.

Respect needs to go both ways or it won't work. There's not enough of it.
 
@grazorblade what do you see as Footballs strengths or causes for celebration?

I'm really encouraged by all the exciting young players doing well in Europe and performing for the national team.

The increased transfers out of the A-League and more playing opportunities for young players.

The Australian Championship was great despite its compromised format. It was great to see the diversity, colour, and passion of ghe NPL clubs.
 
grazorblade said:
soccernomics guest on the pod. Have trouble spelling his last name without googling
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That was a great pod! Really interesting. Been meaning to post in the pod thread about it. I thought it was really well done calling out the AL board member after he criticised economists. Those comments didn't sit well with me either, sort of flippant. I thought his response to being challenged was good to his credit.

You're other pod with Nick Galatas, Lynch and the SM guys was also great. Loved Nick Galatas attitude despite all the challenges. That sort of leadership is required imo.
 
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