Heir to dukes throne

[ashtongate]

Greece have a fairly good shout at qualifying for next year... strong young squad and decent recent results... Qualifying for a world cup throuhg UEFA (and also having the same best result - round of 16) as a country like Australia with 2.5 times the population is no mean feat. How many times has Malaysia qualified for the World Cup out of interest? A country with 4 times the population of Greece and football mad?

Read a book recently called "Why Malaysia Will Never Qualify For The World Cup"?
Answers in a nutshell:
Poor administration
No youth training academies
Corruption
Nepotism
Clubs are set up along regional lines
High turn over of coaches

 

[Kitwally]

Greece have a fairly good shout at qualifying for next year... strong young squad and decent recent results... Qualifying for a world cup throuhg UEFA (and also having the same best result - round of 16) as a country like Australia with 2.5 times the population is no mean feat. How many times has Malaysia qualified for the World Cup out of interest? A country with 4 times the population of Greece and football mad?

Nice attempt but I’m not Malaysian

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Nice attempt but I’m not Malaysian

Sad that you don't even pretend to make an attempt to assimilate ....

 

[Kitwally]

Read a book recently called "Why Malaysia Will Never Qualify For The World Cup"?
Answers in a nutshell:
Poor administration
No youth training academies
Corruption
Nepotism
Clubs are set up along regional lines
High turn over of coaches

All factors. And Eurosnobs, apart from JDT, many teams only get 1K or 2K crowds to matches. Some people follow EPL but hardly any care about the Malaysian League. No much of a sporting culture. And it’s too hot, tropical heat and humidity all year round.

 

[Kitwally]

Sad that you don't even pretend to make an attempt to assimilate ....

Slow day at work mate? I’m learning Bahasa. Speak fluent Mandarin and do my best with English. Have Malaysian friends and a Malaysian gf. Regularly eat great Malaysian food. If by “assimilate” you meant Malaysian citizenship or PR or something, as a foreigner you can’t get it, it’s like China.

 

[Monoethnic Social Club]

Slow day at work mate? I’m learning Bahasa. Speak fluent Mandarin and do my best with English. Have Malaysian friends and a Malaysian gf. Regularly eat great Malaysian food. If by “assimilate” you meant Malaysian citizenship or PR or something, as a foreigner you can’t get it, it’s like China.

Well if you have Malaysian GF, Im backing off, respect, they are hot AF........

 

[BA81]

Some people follow EPL but hardly any care about the Malaysian League

That’s a shame considering that for a brief time in the early-mid ‘90s, it was arguably among the best in Asia(before the J-League really consolidated itself), and Aussie players such as Abbas Saad, Joe Biskic and Mehmet Durakovic flocked to it.

 

[ashtongate]

That’s a shame considering that for a brief time in the early-mid ‘90s, it was arguably among the best in Asia(before the J-League really consolidated itself), and Aussie players such as Abbas Saad, Joe Biskic and Mehmet Durakovic flocked to it.

Yeah, lost only 4-2 to England in the early 90s.
More Chinese and others in the national team then. Only Malays now.

 

[Kitwally]

Sabah FC has Jean-Paul de Marigny as coach and Scott Ollerenshaw as Technical Director. They recently signed Pelekanos from WSW and Kiwi Dane Ingham from Newcastle. Dylan Wenzel-Halls plays for Penang, Jordan Murray for Brunei, Giancarlo Gallifluoco for Kuala Lumpur City, Shane Lowry is still on JDT’s books but has been injured for a long time, and Peter Cklmosvski coaches the Malaysian national team.

 

[Kitwally]

Yeah, lost only 4-2 to England in the early 90s.
More Chinese and others in the national team then. Only Malays now.

Actually they have followed Indonesia in recruiting naturalised or “heritage” players as they are called now. One of the national teams recently had I think 10 naturalised players on the pitch.

 

[Kitwally]

Aussie-Malaysians include Perth Glory’s Matthew Davies, and Sydney FC’s Brendan Gan (now back at Sutherland). I just had a look and there are heritage players from Netherlands, Belgium, Spain(3), Argentina(3), Canada, UK, Finland, Brazil(3), Colombia and more.

 

[Keeper66]

Not sure of their dates of birth, but these guys were around 80-93:
Krncevic
Mitchell
Ollerenshaw
Davidson
Yankos
Kosmina
Patikas
Jennings
plus the ones already mentioned

Haven't looked it up, but I know Krncevic, Mitchell, Davidson, Yankos, Kosmina and Jennings are all pre 1963 birth. Those born in 1963-68 would have been in the 1986 WC qualifiers, 1988 Olympics, and 1990/94/98 WC qualifiers.

Just looked at the teams who played Scotland in 1985, the only one I can see there in the 63-68 group is Jim Patikas.

Looking at the 1988 Olympics squad, the 63-68 ones there are van Egmond, Farina, Petersen, Arnold, Tobin, Hunter, Koczka, Bozinovski, Slater, Ollerenshaw and Gibson.

From the 1990 team add in Spink, Polak, Palatsides, Maxwell as (slightly) recognisable names.

From the 1994 team add in Zabica, van Blerk, Durakovic, Aurelio Vidmar.

From 1998 all I can see are Tapai and Hooker.

 

[patjennings]

That’s a shame considering that for a brief time in the early-mid ‘90s, it was arguably among the best in Asia(before the J-League really consolidated itself), and Aussie players such as Abbas Saad, Joe Biskic and Mehmet Durakovic flocked to it.

Sounds like it is very up and down.

The Mariners played them as a warmup to the Asian Cup in 2007. We were still in pre-season and they were heading straight to the cup. CCM beat them 3-0 at Pluim Park. They then went to the Asian Cup and finished bottom of the group with 3 losses and a -11 goal difference

 

[Kitwally]

That’s a shame considering that for a brief time in the early-mid ‘90s, it was arguably among the best in Asia(before the J-League really consolidated itself), and Aussie players such as Abbas Saad, Joe Biskic and Mehmet Durakovic flocked to it.

The money was better than what they could get in the NSL at the time

 

[LFC]

Haven't looked it up, but I know Krncevic, Mitchell, Davidson, Yankos, Kosmina and Jennings are all pre 1963 birth. Those born in 1963-68 would have been in the 1986 WC qualifiers, 1988 Olympics, and 1990/94/98 WC qualifiers.

Just looked at the teams who played Scotland in 1985, the only one I can see there in the 63-68 group is Jim Patikas.

Looking at the 1988 Olympics squad, the 63-68 ones there are van Egmond, Farina, Petersen, Arnold, Tobin, Hunter, Koczka, Bozinovski, Slater, Ollerenshaw and Gibson.

From the 1990 team add in Spink, Polak, Palatsides, Maxwell as (slightly) recognisable names.

From the 1994 team add in Zabica, van Blerk, Durakovic, Aurelio Vidmar.

From 1998 all I can see are Tapai and Hooker.

Bang on K66 hence my question further back - quoting '85 Roos and abouts......such as below up '87.

1985 Australia Men's National Team Results

www.ozfootball.net

1986 Australia Men's National Team Results

www.ozfootball.net

1987 Australia Men's National Team Results

www.ozfootball.net

 

[grazorblade]

Graz,
from 63-68 born what is the avg age bench mark of the player you use ? 20yrs for eg ? in a Roo shirt say '85 ?
Were talking Scheinflog/Arok coaching era's ?

Pretty broad allowance

Anyone born after january 1st 1963 and before the last day of 1968

Appeared in a roos shirt at least 1 time

 

[LFC]

yep agreed, I cought the tail end but man, thats a struggle to colate and consider many varied players.
I'm gonna drop it too much of a headache

 

[grazorblade]

yep agreed, I cought the tail end but man, thats a struggle to colate and consider many varied players.
I'm gonna drop it too much of a headache

haha maybe just put your favourite xi born then

 

[ashtongate]

Aussie-Malaysians include Perth Glory’s Matthew Davies, and Sydney FC’s Brendan Gan (now back at Sutherland). I just had a look and there are heritage players from Netherlands, Belgium, Spain(3), Argentina(3), Canada, UK, Finland, Brazil(3), Colombia and more.

Great! They should surely improve now.