Canberra, +1 Melbourne and where else? Adelaide? Hobart?

haha..love that, like why do they have to do it with a horse?

And how does any of that help football domestically? When I see those kids wearing domestic club shirts with domestic players names and numbers then maybe, but otherwise none of that makes the game domestically stronger.

The premier domestic league is the A-League. Its a joke in terms of general public interest, media interest, attendances and viewership, not to mention the disastrous financial situation. The one and only thing that football has to cling to is international competition. The socceroos and...

If you're not watching as a fan of one of the teams its not fascinating to you because you're not emotionally invested in the outcome. If you are a fan then you react with every contest win and loss. If you've never played it, you won't appreciate the skills required either. I'd rather stick...

The AFL obviously knows that we have the advantage of international competition. However that advantage which comes around every 4 years hasn't made a lasting impact on football's local popularity as measured by viewership and investmen, despite 6 WC's in a row. In fact it could be argued...

You mean like this: Highlights include: 04:16 Which AFL Star Would Ange Draft? 06:25 Harry Dean Or Peter Dean?

The AFL just has combined attendance of over 170,000 for two games. These weren't even finals games...they were sudden death games to *qualify" to play in the finals. Yeah they're trembling in their shoes..

Its not going to happen. The biggest investment we had in local football was during peak A-League. Top tier corporate sponsors like Hyunda and Samsung, crowds in the 30,000+ as high as in the 60,000's for regular season games, coverage in local newspapers, centre page spreads, hundreds of...

Are their families overseas? Given their young ages and them being raised here with their families I find it hard to believe they have strong emotional connections to Croatia and Greece beyond maybe what their parents might tell them about the place I suspec they're motivated about playing in...

Oh really? I don't remember, what did he actually do?

But isn't pride in your nation that makes you watch, stand up for the national anthem, sing it, or place your hand over your heart? Otherwise what are we doing here? Watching a bunch of mercenaries running around pantomiming they love the shirt...I mean that's what the EPL is for!

And that cuts both ways. They can have no complaints if fans express how *they* feel about it either.

Well obviously I can't decide for them. Representing your nation should be more than just about furthering your career.. these players are free to feel otherwise, but they can't complain if fans lose respect for them or boo them should they play against us.

Well that's the thing. I don't think you can be both, equally.

Its not hatred, its disappointment. If Triantis believes he's Greek first then fine, Same if Segicic believes he's Croatian first. But don't piss on our shoes and tell us its raining, that deep down they turned their back on Australia because of Popovic. In all likelihood they did it in...

The context around this is their age and inexperience. Popovic says they're were 20 and 21 years old at the time. They had plenty of time ahead of them to earn their place and make it so the manager could not not pick them up. If you're passionate in your nation and you consider yourself in...

So what at 20, 21 years of age you come to work and think you know better than than the manager who has 30 years experience locally and abroad, and quit when you don't get what you want when you want it despite the company investing years in your growth and development?

Actions speak louder than words, mate.

No argument there. Getting back to Segecic and Triantis, THEY chose to not to play for Australia. They were what 21, 22 years old at the time? Plenty of time to time to make the squad