Don’t agree. The first objective now is not to get beat, instead of going for the win from the off.

Look, all trophies count for the clubs involved, but the ones that count are in the top division, or in Australia’s case the NSL and the A league. SMFC still are in top 5 in national trophies won, AFAIA.

With all due respect, they don't. In the growing argument between MUFC and LFC, about who has won the most trophies, neither of them counts their lower league titles. Dockerty cup is only a local trophy in VIC.

One was a lower league trophy. (They don't really count in the grand scheme of things)

Oh, the LDV Vans trophy that you won.

The latter.

I eagerly await your acceptance, but something in the back of my mind tells me that after you have paid your $15 million or so, they are going to tell you that you must drop the name" Hellas" to be able to compete. That would be so Australian football. Why would the rest of the league be...

Has was only there for five and a bit years.( first team)

My point is, is that it is called" Football" stick yer " Soccer" up your arse. Franchise does not fuss me in the slightest, unlike, at the mention of SMFC joining said franchise league frightens the life out of you.

Only Yanks and wanks call it soccer

That is how you have the money now, by not spending it.

Of course they do. Most guys are off contract, and with no domestic transfer fees, they are just let go.

Which reportedly your club soon will be!

Shite bag!!

This scenario is not exclusive to Australia.

Facts, eh. The old ways always work.

I you think it is entertaining, then you must be a very boring bastard.:rolleyes:

It is about entertainment, and we have none of it, especially in the EPL. All of the players who played in the last 40 years or more will tell you the same.

He and others of his ilk were very rarely wrong.