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The Western United Thread

melbcityguy said:
But how the heck can we do two divisions if we can't handle one?

Like look at the Australia cup attendance and ratings isn't there we just don't have the demand for it
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The irony is that the perceived 2nd division structure is probably more sustainable. If the A League teams want to join, they should. They will probably dominate, but that’s ok. They will give it legitimacy.

And at least we will be all united
 
melbcityguy said:
But how the heck can we do two divisions if we can't handle one?

Like look at the Australia cup attendance and ratings isn't there we just don't have the demand for it
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An old economic saying is """All boats lift on a rising tide"""

We need all levels to lift those posters wishing almost wanting the A-L to fall over I fear don't understand for all its many faults the A-L by light years the most successful Football competition we have ever had... still with many things to do and that ""To Do list"" is quite long....

However, as you point out, the market for Australian professional Football teams is simply not there as yet.... to lift it to where we want it to go needs unity and reform... and for every level to grow ....

The current APL management have managed something unusual for Football in Australia in that over the past two years they have not stuffed things up to much.... same can be said for those teams going into tier two competitions.....

I agree with you, without a lift overall we will struggle to hold on... but that lift has to be at all levels...
 
melbcityguy said:
But how the heck can we do two divisions if we can't handle one?

Like look at the Australia cup attendance and ratings isn't there we just don't have the demand for it
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Your approaching it wrong... The problem isnt the amount of leagues or the participants... its all to do with the unsustainable criteria set.. the second tier is more laxed, the alegaue is over stretched... you find middle ground that is sustainable for all and you develop from that... aleague remains as is now and the exorbitant money required is minimised to benefit the there clubs to stabalise it again ... expansion only via stint in second tier, here the criteria is relaxed to the minimum requiremnts of budget and stadium, and if you need to break it up to reduce travel costs go to ie limited league initially or full 2 conferences and play a finals series with the top 4 from each.. pro rel isnt a pre req until sustainability is in place!
This actually appeases all, redevelops the product from a base up, appeals to tv, goes towards a pyramid.

Attendences shouldnt be only bench mark.
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
What credibility do you still maintain it has??
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It has more credibility than the NSL ever had amongst the Australian public. That is not a dig at the NSL, just the facts, or the NSL would in all likelihood, still exist. I understand your hatred of the A league, but Furfuxsake, let it go.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
It has more credibility than the NSL ever had amongst the Australian public. That is not a dig at the NSL, just the facts, or the NSL would in all likelihood, still exist. I understand your hatred of the A league, but Furfuxsake, let it go.
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What did i write above that remotely had anything to do with the NSL??

With all due respect the one that needs to let it go it seems is you!
 
Sutherlandbear said:
I know what your ulterior motive is.

Please tell me ,outwith WUFC , does it lack credibility?
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You got me, my ulterior motive is to bring back the NSL!!

The lack of credibilty that is proven is the same lack of credibility that existed before you but is now on a grander scale...that which is so eloquently alluded to as a failure of the past but that was to be magically sorted by the reformation... or do you deny that?

Bar a couple, do the franchises have economic credibility definitely more failures than your predecessor? Does the APL have credibility? Does the product you put out have credibilty, are you going to make more money from tv rights?
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
You got me, my ulterior motive is to bring back the NSL!!

The lack of credibilty that is proven is the same lack of credibility that existed before you but is now on a grander scale...that which is so eloquently alluded to as a failure of the past but that was to be magically sorted by the reformation... or do you deny that?

Bar a couple, do the franchises have economic credibility definitely more failures than your predecessor? Does the APL have credibility? Does the product you put out have credibilty, are you going to make more money from tv rights?
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IMHO, Yes, yes and yes.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
I am not the one questioning the credibility of the league.

You have previously told me that you hold massive grudges against the A league, so you are never going to praise it in anyway.
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You're right i do have a grudge and dont hide it... i have also said that in a perfect world a melb victory or sydney fc like adelaide and perth before them wouldve been perfect in a combined league...
 
Hellenic_blue&white said:
You got me, my ulterior motive is to bring back the NSL!!

The lack of credibilty that is proven is the same lack of credibility that existed before you but is now on a grander scale...that which is so eloquently alluded to as a failure of the past but that was to be magically sorted by the reformation... or do you deny that?

Bar a couple, do the franchises have economic credibility definitely more failures than your predecessor? Does the APL have credibility? Does the product you put out have credibilty, are you going to make more money from tv rights?
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No, your ulterior motive is to see the A league die a horrible death, and your little NST rise up to be the major league in Australia. Now don’t lie.
 
Sutherlandbear said:
If the A league dies, their is no way back in this country.
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Yeah that's where I get confused. I understand you need everyone pulling in the right direction with two leagues p and r but I don't understand how we get there now with the lack of interest.


If anything a league, championship and aus cup needs to get people interested so there's demand for it. Isn't it?
 
WUFC won a stay of execution on Friday night in the courts.

The winding up has been stayed pending an application to review the court’s decision substantively and once that application is made next week, the stay will operate until the appeal is heard,” the statement read.

It added: “We all know what our football club and broader project means to all our members and the community.
 
The question I never understood from the start was where the money was coming from. And a second question: what is motivating these guys? Because from the outside the whole thing looked like insanity right from the start.

What I can't abide is that the individuals who made the logically inexplicable decision to admit WU to the competition are not being held to account in any way.
 
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