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reading Eusebius' church history. Its a book from 320s ad about the first 300 years of the church and about 500 pages long. Been trying to find a coreader for a few months with no luck so biting the bullet and reading it myself

first page has a single sentence take up an entire page - apparently that was a common writing style in the classical world. I just read the commas as if they are full stops as I tend to hold my breath when reading long sentences in my head for some reason :D
reading Eusebius' church history. Its a book from 320s ad about the first 300 years of the church and about 500 pages long. Been trying to find a coreader for a few months with no luck so biting the bullet and reading it myself

first page has a single sentence take up an entire page - apparently that was a common writing style in the classical world. I just read the commas as if they are full stops as I tend to hold my breath when reading long sentences in my head for some reason :D
Wow!

One sentence taking up a page!
 
It can happen sometimes. The main character disappoints.

I thought it was the case with Villani - a Peter Temple main character. Yet Peter T wrote Jack Irish - which had a compelling protagonist in the screen series.

The plot in The Beacon sounds interesting. Will look for this book in secondhand bookshops and op shops.

I know a few authors. They often lose a third of the book after a pro editor edits the book. Could the hasty wrap up be because of an editor wanting to shorten the story?
I'm less charitable. I think a good editor would have tightened up the logic, eliminated the irrelevant incidents, and insisted the author learn how newspapers work. My guess is that the quick wrap up was because the page count was mounting, and some deus ex machina was the only way to get Jack and Caitlin over the line.
 

You'd like that guy. Set in Melbourne. Brutal, dark crime fiction.
Not sure?

I’ve been avoiding Karen Slaughter. She has said she wants her crime scenes to be really horrific - enough to haunt the reader afterwards.

Stephen King (very popular author) might be a bit scary for me too!
 
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I'm less charitable. I think a good editor would have tightened up the logic, eliminated the irrelevant incidents, and insisted the author learn how newspapers work. My guess is that the quick wrap up was because the page count was mounting, and some deus ex machina was the only way to get Jack and Caitlin over the line.
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I'm less charitable. I think a good editor would have tightened up the logic, eliminated the irrelevant incidents, and insisted the author learn how newspapers work. My guess is that the quick wrap up was because the page count was mounting, and some deus ex machina was the only way to get Jack and Caitlin over the line.
If there was a page page limit, who do you think made the decision, Dr C?

Off forum I was just talking about ‘rushed or overly condensed finishes’ with my better half.

I think Lisa Jewell really nailed the finish and conclusion to her book The Third Wife, but my wife thinks she rushed the finish in LJ’s current book she just completed.

Gary Disher constantly blows every book with his inadequate conclusions- albeit I really enjoy the rest of the body of his books.
 
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If there was a page page limit, who do you think made the decision, Dr C?
editors like under 100k words for anything other than fantasy

even for fantasy they prefer debut authors to be under 100k if they can manage it
 
double space font size 12 a4 is 400 pages
Thanks.

Most fiction books I read are in the crime genre and are 300-400 pages in length. In fact in historical fiction and relationship fiction , they are generally this length too.

Robert Galbraith ( JK Rowling) stretches her recent Strike books to 7-800 pages in the crime genre.

Linda La Plante has some 5-600 page books in the crime genre too.
 
Thanks.

Most fiction books I read are in the crime genre and are 300-400 pages in length. In fact in historical fiction and relationship fiction , they are generally this length too.

Robert Galbraith ( JK Rowling) stretches her recent Strike books to 7-800 pages in the crime genre.

Linda La Plante has some 5-600 page books in the crime genre too.
once you are published you have more leverage and can go out of industry expectations
 
Not sure?

I’ve been avoiding Karen Slaughter. She has said she wants her crime scenes to be really horrific - enough to haunt the reader afterwards.

Stephen King (very popular author) might be a bit scary for me too!
Because her name is Karen Slaughter that's why. The guy I recommended is J R Carroll, much more benign for your squeamish tastes.
 
reading Eusebius' church history. Its a book from 320s ad about the first 300 years of the church and about 500 pages long. Been trying to find a coreader for a few months with no luck so biting the bullet and reading it myself

first page has a single sentence take up an entire page - apparently that was a common writing style in the classical world. I just read the commas as if they are full stops as I tend to hold my breath when reading long sentences in my head for some reason :D
What a random and fascinating topic to read about mate... Well done you.. Love to hear your thoughts when done...
 
Because her name is Karen Slaughter that's why. The guy I recommended is J R Carroll, much more benign for your squeamish tastes.
Hopefully, JR Carroll has written a lot of books, because I’ve read all of Sue Grafton, Lee Child, Diana Gabaldon, Harlan Coben, Robert Galbraith, Chris Hammer, Jane Harper, Sarah Bailey, Dervla McTiernan’s books!

I’ve also read a lot of Michael Connelly, Peter James, Ellie Griffiths and Bernard Cornwell. One is constantly seeking new authors!

JR Carroll is an author I will try. Ta.
 
I have a criticism of Linda La Plante. I'm reading one of her DI Anna Travis series ATM.

It is the second book I've read of this very talented author. She has really sucked me in with the fast paced, entertaining writing style. I'm quite blown out how good she is!

However, where LLP differs from the likes of the great Robert Galbraith, who does not want to write romantic novels, but adheres strictly to the crime genre writing as RG, I feel irritated that DI Anna Travis is a loner socially outside work - and - at work.

She is totally besotted with DCI James Langton, played very well by Ciaran Hinds in the screen series. Langton is basically an arrogant, callous, obnoxious, rude, bullying, overbearing, egotistical, selfish boss, who is also Travis' romantic partner. The traits of the DCI are not admirable - bosses with traits like this, I've clashed with in the workplace and have activated the union over their various behaviours and actions.

Travis doesn't appear to mentor younger, or less experienced detectives under her command. She has no concept of team building. She just seems irritated by less talented or experienced detectives. Langton is irritated by them too - just abuses or puts them down, rather than mentors them. With the sequel to this book, Deadly Intent, thankfully Langton is less involved in the plot.

I've seen Langton described as 'charismatic' in a review. I think he is amongst the most irritating protagonists in a fiction book I've read for a decade! There is a strange phenomenon where some pleasant women are attracted to arrogant men!

Another author, Michael Robotham, a talented Aussie who never writes about Aus, has one of his protagonists, Joe O'Loughlin, who also adulates his former wife, as a trophy wife, so much it is nauseating.

Plus Joe's teenage daughter seems to get entwined in every climax of the Joe OL series - needlessly. Having said this, in other books I've read by MR, I much prefer his other main characters to Joe O, played by Aiden Turner in the screen series. MR is a high quality crime author.

Contrast to Robert Galbraith - who always keeps her protagonists, Strike's and Robin's attraction to each other, from developing. RG does it in a clever, teasing way. The paramount focus is on their private detective agency and solving the occasional big crime.

Also , PI Vic Warsawski, Sarah Peretsky's main character, and PI Kinsey Millhone, Sue Grafton's protagonist, are not at all dependent on domineering male characters.

Ditto Gabrielle Lord, who also has strong, independent female investigators.

Moreover, Michael Connelly's Detective Rene Ballard is not defined by a fawning relationship with a male.

One can add Chris Hammer's Detective Nell Buchanan, a very good martial artist, to the list of independent female leads.
 
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You should read the Partick O'Brian novels, set in the Napoleonic era.
Main characters are Captain Jack Aubrey, a sea captain, and Dr Stephen Maturin, a spy.
A couple of mates yesterday added to the list who have enjoyed this series.

Will definitely revisit, after quitting half way through the first Pat O'B series with Jack Aubrey featuring.
 
If there was a page page limit, who do you think made the decision, Dr C?

Off forum I was just talking about ‘rushed or overly condensed finishes’ with my better half.

I think Lisa Jewell really nailed the finish and conclusion to her book The Third Wife, but my wife thinks she rushed the finish in LJ’s current book she just completed.

Gary Disher constantly blows every book with his inadequate conclusions- albeit I really enjoy the rest of the body of his books.
Page limits? No idea.

Although I expect that publishers have to be a bit more flexible with fantasy and science fiction because of the amount of world-building that goes into them.

Speaking of science fiction, currently about half way through John Scalzi's When the Moon Hits Your Eye. I've read and enjoyed some of his other books, such as Old Man's War, but this one is disappointing, to be honest. It begins with the moon turning into a massive ball of cheese. The book is a series of disconnected chapters about how various people/groups react to this. I'll probably finish it out of curiosity, more than anything else.
 
Page limits? No idea.

Although I expect that publishers have to be a bit more flexible with fantasy and science fiction because of the amount of world-building that goes into them.

Speaking of science fiction, currently about half way through John Scalzi's When the Moon Hits Your Eye. I've read and enjoyed some of his other books, such as Old Man's War, but this one is disappointing, to be honest. It begins with the moon turning into a massive ball of cheese. The book is a series of disconnected chapters about how various people/groups react to this. I'll probably finish it out of curiosity, more than anything else.
Used to read a lot of science fiction ( Frank Herbert, Kurt Vonnegut, Philip Dick) 4 decades ago working as a cable watcher in a Pilbara mine, but have lost interest in the genre.

For some reason the 280-400 page book appears to be a norm.

Some criticise Robert Galbraith for lengthy books, but I find them so entertaining I don't want them to end!
 
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