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Gianni Infanculo aims to sell World Cup commercial rights

Step 1
Check fine print of existing documentation for 'right to vote' rules. There is probably an addition somewhere that says 'federations and confederations who choose to not comply with FIFA organised activities are excluded from voting'.

Step 2
If nothing in Step 1, then create something like that under Executive Powers.

Step 3
Offer guaranteed combined hosting rights to largest remaining federations

Step 4
Hold the vote with the opposition excluded from the process

Step 5
Appoint Trump as the head of whatever commercialisation group you want

Step 6
Rename the FIFA World Cup to whoever pays best

Step 7
Rename the trophy as the Trump Infantino Trophy and not care that you go down in history as the bastards who fucked the world game
 
What's worse about this sell off plan was that it was tied to Trump. People can say it's not, but the Kushners are behind it. Infantino is selling football for all it's worth and doesn't actually care for the game. Sad reality is that there are not many football leaders out there that do actually act in footballs best interests.

Fans need to be more vocal than just sitting back. We continue to buy the shirts and pay the stupid ticket prices. Can't remember the last time I bought a kit, or spent money in a club shop. We are addicted and can't stay away and as much as we get upset about these things, we are kind of part of the problem that keeps fuelling the monster.

As for the federations, the FA needs to grow some balls and start being serious about governance of the game, and not just be the quiet one that just accepts what the AFC says and follows.
 
zimbos05 said:
What's worse about this sell off plan was that it was tied to Trump. People can say it's not, but the Kushners are behind it. Infantino is selling football for all it's worth and doesn't actually care for the game. Sad reality is that there are not many football leaders out there that do actually act in footballs best interests.

Fans need to be more vocal than just sitting back. We continue to buy the shirts and pay the stupid ticket prices. Can't remember the last time I bought a kit, or spent money in a club shop. We are addicted and can't stay away and as much as we get upset about these things, we are kind of part of the problem that keeps fuelling the monster.

As for the federations, the FA needs to grow some balls and start being serious about governance of the game, and not just be the quiet one that just accepts what the AFC says and follows.
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Easier said than done.....

The Football Australia aren't a particularly big federation who operate in a completely different financial and structural reality compared to the powerhouse football associations around world.

I mean, lets be honest Football Australia aren’t even that big in Australia......

And because they don't wield massive global financial muscle, rocking the boat too hard within regional bodies (like the AFC) or global bodies (FIFA) risks political isolation or losing out on vital developmental support.

And while fans in Australia want governance that takes a fierce ideological stand on global issues, your local administrators are often stuck fighting bushfires closer to home, like grassroots funding, A-League stability, and facility infrastructure just to keep the game alive domestically.

When your federation is financially vulnerable, "growing some balls" can quickly turn into a luxury you can't afford, especially if it alienates the powerbrokers holding the purse strings.

Football Australia has to play the diplomatic tightrope, walk behind the scenes nodding along in the right rooms so it's national teams don't get frozen out and it's bids or hosting rights don't mysteriously vanish.

Better to keep your head down and let 'established' FIFA critics like Craig Foster do the leg work....lol
 
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Football us life said:
Easier said than done.....

The Football Australia aren't a particularly big federation who operate in a completely different financial and structural reality compared to the powerhouse football associations around world.

I mean, lets be honest Football Australia aren’t even that big in Australia......

And because they don't wield massive global financial muscle, rocking the boat too hard within regional bodies (like the AFC) or global bodies (FIFA) risks political isolation or losing out on vital developmental support.

And while fans in Australia want governance that takes a fierce ideological stand on global issues, your local administrators are often stuck fighting bushfires closer to home, like grassroots funding, A-League stability, and facility infrastructure just to keep the game alive domestically.

When your federation is financially vulnerable, "growing some balls" can quickly turn into a luxury you can't afford, especially if it alienates the powerbrokers holding the purse strings.

Football Australia has to play the diplomatic tightrope, walk behind the scenes nodding along in the right rooms so it's national teams don't get frozen out and it's bids or hosting rights don't mysteriously vanish.

Better to keep your head down and let 'established' FIFA critics like Craig Foster do the leg work....lol
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Cowering in the corner while receiving remuneration (financial/social and networking opportunities) is not what I expect from people who I contribute to, whether directly/indirectly. It is more than likely that cowardice is why silence is prevalent at FA because they all are professional board sitters who would love to move on to a bigger and better board than the ones they are on now. Non football loving people feathering their own nest instead of doing what they are PAID TO DO.
 
YdF said:
Cowering in the corner while receiving remuneration (financial/social and networking opportunities) is not what I expect from people who I contribute to, whether directly/indirectly. It is more than likely that cowardice is why silence is prevalent at FA because they all are professional board sitters who would love to move on to a bigger and better board than the ones they are on now. Non football loving people feathering their own nest instead of doing what they are PAID TO DO.
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Well I understand your frustration but I think it’s fairly easy to label it 'cowardice' from the outside!

However idealism doesn’t pay the bills or keep grassroots football afloat in this country.

Call them board sitters if you want, but the reality is that Football Australia operates in a completely different financial ecosystem to the big globally influential football federations.

If an FA executive goes rogue on a crusade against FIFA or the AFC on a particular subject, they don't bring about systemic reform they just get iced out, maybe lose developmental funding, and leave Australian football even more isolated.

Expecting a middle-tier federation to act like a global superpower isn’t holding them to a high standard, it’s ignoring how international sports politics actually works. Pragmatism isn't cowardice, it's survival.....
 
JS96 said:
Certainty not in this case and the first person to report it got it right to a tee and was thorough. If FIFA had informed confederations first and released their own statement before the press the proposal would've been received poorly but probably weakly. I think the media had the advantage here of beating FIFA to the punch and firing people up. Rightly so.
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But FIFA did not hold any consultation process with confederations, and clearly had no plans to, hence the insultingly short September 19 deadline. Infant Ino just told a blatant lie of Trumpian brazenness.
 
socceroosmad said:
But FIFA did not hold any consultation process with confederations, and clearly had no plans to, hence the insultingly short September 19 deadline. Infant Ino just told a blatant lie of Trumpian brazenness.
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That's right. I said IF FIFA had informed and consulted confederations it only would've been received less negatively.

Often the media do muddle the details to what is actually going on yet it wasn't the case here so their claim of media interference is null and void.
 
Football us life said:
Easier said than done.....

The Football Australia aren't a particularly big federation who operate in a completely different financial and structural reality compared to the powerhouse football associations around world.

I mean, lets be honest Football Australia aren’t even that big in Australia......

And because they don't wield massive global financial muscle, rocking the boat too hard within regional bodies (like the AFC) or global bodies (FIFA) risks political isolation or losing out on vital developmental support.

And while fans in Australia want governance that takes a fierce ideological stand on global issues, your local administrators are often stuck fighting bushfires closer to home, like grassroots funding, A-League stability, and facility infrastructure just to keep the game alive domestically.

When your federation is financially vulnerable, "growing some balls" can quickly turn into a luxury you can't afford, especially if it alienates the powerbrokers holding the purse strings.

Football Australia has to play the diplomatic tightrope, walk behind the scenes nodding along in the right rooms so it's national teams don't get frozen out and it's bids or hosting rights don't mysteriously vanish.

Better to keep your head down and let 'established' FIFA critics like Craig Foster do the leg work....lol
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Our hosting rights are all but zero. Other than for the womens tournament and maybe some youth events, no one really sees us as a viable host for anything major on the global scale.

I understand your point, but the reality is that the FA can't keep plodding along waiting for others to do things for us. We need to be proactive in developing the sport at home and in securing the funding and rights that we need.

Let's be honest, the FA has shot itself in the foot on many occasion leading to this over reliance on the AFC and having to be a yes man.

We can still make our voice be heard and stand against some of the corruption in football without rocking the AFC boat.
 
zimbos05 said:
Our hosting rights are all but zero. Other than for the womens tournament and maybe some youth events, no one really sees us as a viable host for anything major on the global scale.

I understand your point, but the reality is that the FA can't keep plodding along waiting for others to do things for us. We need to be proactive in developing the sport at home and in securing the funding and rights that we need.

Let's be honest, the FA has shot itself in the foot on many occasion leading to this over reliance on the AFC and having to be a yes man.

We can still make our voice be heard and stand against some of the corruption in football without rocking the AFC boat.
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In the murky world of football, administrators operate much like conventional politicians in the murky world of poltics. They're caught in an eternal struggle between moral conviction and institutional survival. While frustrated fans often demand bold radical action and proactive leadership, executives must prioritise diplomacy and optics above all else to protect their organisation's standing.

In the complex landscape of global football governance, going on a crusade against regional powerhouses like an AFC or a FIFA can carry steep penalties.....

Because mid-tier national associations lack the leverage to throw their weight around, compromise and compliance are rarely simple signs of weakness. Instead, they represent calculated survival strategies.

Radicalism is a high-risk gamble whether you are a politician leading a nation or an administrator leading a national football federation, the structural system around you is engineered to punish disruption and reward compliance.

For a politically radical football fan, then frustration with what I've said there is practically a guarantee.

While the administrator has to play that long, cautious game of institutional survival, the fan has no interest in diplomacy, optics, or funding grants. Fans live for passion, tribalism, and the purity of the game. When they see their governing body acting like a submissive "yes man" to continental or global powerhouses, or failing to push for bold ambition, it doesn't look like pragmatism to them it looks like cowardice and selling out.

I totally get all that.....

That disconnect creates a flashpoint. The fan wants revolution, anti-corruption crusades, and fierce defiance, while the executive is sitting in a boardroom calculating voting blocks and budget lines. When your worldview is built on fighting the system, watching the people running your sport cozy up to it is a recipe for endless exasperation.
 
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Football us life said:
In the murky world of football, administrators operate much like conventional politicians in the murky world of poltics. They're caught in an eternal struggle between moral conviction and institutional survival. While frustrated fans often demand bold radical action and proactive leadership, executives must prioritise diplomacy and optics above all else to protect their organisation's standing.

In the complex landscape of global football governance, going on a crusade against regional powerhouses like an AFC or a FIFA can carry steep penalties.....

Because mid-tier national associations lack the leverage to throw their weight around, compromise and compliance are rarely simple signs of weakness. Instead, they represent calculated survival strategies.

Radicalism is a high-risk gamble whether you are a politician leading a nation or an administrator leading a national football federation, the structural system around you is engineered to punish disruption and reward compliance.

For a politically radical football fan, then frustration with what I've said there is practically a guarantee.

While the administrator has to play that long, cautious game of institutional survival, the fan has no interest in diplomacy, optics, or funding grants. Fans live for passion, tribalism, and the purity of the game. When they see their governing body acting like a submissive "yes man" to continental or global powerhouses, or failing to push for bold ambition, it doesn't look like pragmatism to them it looks like cowardice and selling out.

I totally get all that.....

That disconnect creates a flashpoint. The fan wants revolution, anti-corruption crusades, and fierce defiance, while the executive is sitting in a boardroom calculating voting blocks and budget lines. When your worldview is built on fighting the system, watching the people running your sport cozy up to it is a recipe for endless exasperation.
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You're telling me things I have already seen with my own eyes, and so am not speaking from as if I think an idealised world exists.

I am not demanding radicalism. Are we not one of the top nations in Asia? If so, then we should be a bit more at the forefront of change, particularly within our own nation. It's not as if we don't have the infrastructure and means to run football in this country, and produce talent. We are not a Cambodia, or a Nepal that needs to scrap and save for every single cent. We've been in Asia for 20 odd years now and we still can't even make a sound. We are meant to be one of the top 4 nations in this continent and yet we carry on like we are down at the bottom of the whole situation. I get it, the Middle East countries have the money, but take Australia, Japan, Korea, and China out of Asia, and those countries become nothing but dollar signs. Their football teams become the whipping boys and the confederation becomes absolutely weak.

You're using a lot of buzz words, which I get, but still missing the mark of my point. I'm not advocating for all out assault, but rather for us to be less of a quiet passenger that just goes along with things, and to start being a more tactical in our diplomacy to move towards a positive change.

It's clear that our FA has been submissive the whole time and so we have backed ourselves into this corner, and that's why I'm saying our FA can no longer do this. They need to start being a bit more vocal on certain topics, and also start positioning us to effect positive change. Otherwise, we might as well all just pack up shop. Sell the World Cup to Qatar or Saudi, and never bother with any of this again.
 
zimbos05 said:
You're telling me things I have already seen with my own eyes, and so am not speaking from as if I think an idealised world exists.

I am not demanding radicalism. Are we not one of the top nations in Asia? If so, then we should be a bit more at the forefront of change, particularly within our own nation. It's not as if we don't have the infrastructure and means to run football in this country, and produce talent. We are not a Cambodia, or a Nepal that needs to scrap and save for every single cent. We've been in Asia for 20 odd years now and we still can't even make a sound. We are meant to be one of the top 4 nations in this continent and yet we carry on like we are down at the bottom of the whole situation. I get it, the Middle East countries have the money, but take Australia, Japan, Korea, and China out of Asia, and those countries become nothing but dollar signs. Their football teams become the whipping boys and the confederation becomes absolutely weak.

You're using a lot of buzz words, which I get, but still missing the mark of my point. I'm not advocating for all out assault, but rather for us to be less of a quiet passenger that just goes along with things, and to start being a more tactical in our diplomacy to move towards a positive change.

It's clear that our FA has been submissive the whole time and so we have backed ourselves into this corner, and that's why I'm saying our FA can no longer do this. They need to start being a bit more vocal on certain topics, and also start positioning us to effect positive change. Otherwise, we might as well all just pack up shop. Sell the World Cup to Qatar or Saudi, and never bother with any of this again.
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Mate, you raise an absolute blinder of a point, and honestly, your passion for the game and deep-diving into the structural mechanics of Asian football is second to none.

It’s clear how much you care about the direction of our national game and ensuring Australian football punches at its absolute peak weight. You've always brought a sharp, well-reasoned perspective to these debates, and it's a credit to how engaged you are with the sport's future.

But I think you acting like Football Australia can just casually channel the geopolitical clout of Japan or South Korea. Football in Japan and Korea has massive domestic corporate backing, automotive giants, electronics conglomerates, and billions flowing into their leagues that that let's them throw their weight around in AFC boardrooms.

Australia's sports market is completely fragmented across AFL, NRL, cricket, and rugby league and lil ol' football here fights for crumbs of airtime and funding.

Comparing Australia to Cambodia or Nepal is a bit straw man. Nobody said Football Australia is broke they just don't have the infinite petrodollars of the Middle East or the economic heavyweight status of East Asia's superpower federations.

Wanting Australia to be a "tactical diplomat" instead of a quiet passenger sounds great on a forum, but when you're punching above your weight class without the financial leverage to back it up, tactical diplomacy just looks like getting sidelined and frozen out of key voting blocks.
 
Football us life said:
Mate, you raise an absolute blinder of a point, and honestly, your passion for the game and deep-diving into the structural mechanics of Asian football is second to none.

It’s clear how much you care about the direction of our national game and ensuring Australian football punches at its absolute peak weight. You've always brought a sharp, well-reasoned perspective to these debates, and it's a credit to how engaged you are with the sport's future.

But I think you acting like Football Australia can just casually channel the geopolitical clout of Japan or South Korea. Football in Japan and Korea has massive domestic corporate backing, automotive giants, electronics conglomerates, and billions flowing into their leagues that that let's them throw their weight around in AFC boardrooms.

Australia's sports market is completely fragmented across AFL, NRL, cricket, and rugby league and lil ol' football here fights for crumbs of airtime and funding.

Comparing Australia to Cambodia or Nepal is a bit straw man. Nobody said Football Australia is broke they just don't have the infinite petrodollars of the Middle East or the economic heavyweight status of East Asia's superpower federations.

Wanting Australia to be a "tactical diplomat" instead of a quiet passenger sounds great on a forum, but when you're punching above your weight class without the financial leverage to back it up, tactical diplomacy just looks like getting sidelined and frozen out of key voting blocks.
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No no. I'm well aware that the FA can't just flip a switch. My point is simple, at what point do we just keep sitting as a passenger and letting things happen, or when do we start to behave like a strong footballing nation.

It's not really a straw to compare them. One could understand why Cambodia or a Nepal is drawn to Infantino's promise of millions, but are we really saying that without those millions, football will die in this country? It wouldn't. We would still produce players and talent, and yes they might move abroad sooner because we don't have the money here, but that didn't affect us in the past. If anything, we were at our strongest as a national side then.

Again, I'm not advocating for full on attack, but rather for us to be smarter in how we do things. Up until now, we have been a simple yes man agreeing with everything we get told by the Middle East because we want their dollars, yet they don't ever back us in anything. We've been wanting the World Cup for ages, yet they don't back us. They only pretend to be our friends and when we ask for their support, they don't give it to us. They throw it behind everyone else. They don't invest in our sport, nor provide any significant benefits. They rush to Europe and the USA and spend it there. So all of this pandering to the Middle Eastern bloc has really got us nothing. Not just us too, but all of East Asia.
 
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