I was worried right up to the whistle.

The longer we sat back at the end and invited them in the worse it felt.

I hated the ball kicked away by one of us right at the start, and the idiot picking the ball up on a Turkish free kick and walking off with it later. That does not show intelligence and control. The quick application of some cheese in previous games should have seen both players leaving the ball where it was and not risking what I thought to be sure cards at the time.

Toure, who had a massive game for us, can dribble at speed but he loses the ball quite often. He does not have the close control that would take him much higher in ratings. Speed in open ground is where he can dominate.

The US seem to have an awful lot of very fast players all over the pitch. It will be a bigger challenge to get in behind them with room to spare, and I think we will see more positive results from Bos's runs up the line than the long ball to Toure type.

The biggest improvement in us was that we tried to bring the ball forward and turned to face forward as our first option all game. We did not play the back pass as our standard on receiving the ball with opponents near. That takes both the skill and confidence of the player on the ball, and also permission from the coach to do it.

If we play backwards facing football against the US we will get scalped. Please keep the positive attacking vibe going Popa. 90 minutes of resolute defending with positive attacking mindset is a much more balanced, effective and watchable form of Popaball than the 45 minutes we have been employing up to now.

I have always thought that Maty has never been at his best in World Cups. I can’t remember him making anything more than routine saves. I don’t think he would have reached that tip into the post.

ClockworkOrange said:

I have always thought that Maty has never been at his best in World Cups. I can’t remember him making anything more than routine saves. I don’t think he would have reached that tip into the post.

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I had similar thoughts IF MR was between the sticks.
Even a couple of the point blank ones.

Popas Pups Pound Turks. Drat unable to find another P word.

Been reading somewhere they said 5th biggest upset of all time at a world cup. Huge.

Richie said:

Popas Pups Pound Turks. Drat unable to find another P word.

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What's another word for ottoman (furniture)?

Richie said:

Popas Pups Pound Turks. Drat unable to find another P word.

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Popović “Popa”’s Pups Pound Poopy Pussy Turks? Sounds preposterous!

jas88 said:

Been reading somewhere they said 5th biggest upset of all time at a world cup. Huge.

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No way,whoever says that has just seriously misunderstand Australia and overestimated Turkey.

Pub League Champion said:

No way,whoever says that has just seriously misunderstand Australia and overestimated Turkey.

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I think this is what’s being referred to.

I struggle to comprehend how Australia (a fucking pot 2 nation) winning against Türkiye (a euro playoff qualifier) is a bigger upset than Cameroon beating Brazil or Saudi Arabia beating Argentina.

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I think this is what’s being referred to.

I struggle to comprehend how Australia (a fucking pot 2 nation) winning against Türkiye (a euro playoff qualifier) is a bigger upset than Cameroon beating Brazil or Saudi Arabia beating Argentina.

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Cameroon beating the reining champions in 1990 opener was WAY more impressive than most of these.

I want to watch the replay but with a different commentary to SBS. Anyone have any easy suggestions? I’d love to here if Simon Hill commentated.

What are the main media outlets in Turkiye reporting following the game against Australia? What are the main headlines and themes in how it is being reported?

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Copilot

Here’s a structured synthesis of how Türkiye’s media (and reporting drawing on Turkish sources) is covering the 2–0 World Cup loss to Australia, including the main outlets, headlines, and dominant narratives/themes.

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Main Turkish media outlets covering the match​

The reporting is coming from a mix of:

Major mainstream / general news​

• Hürriyet Daily News (English-language Turkish outlet)
• Cumhuriyet
• Karar
• Sondakika / Son Dakika
• Ekonomim

Sports-focused / tabloid & aggregator outlets​

• Goal Turkey (Goal.com TR)
• SporBursa / regional sports portals
• Fanatik (via quotes referenced in coverage)
• Other TV punditry and commentary platforms (e.g., Neo Spor discussions)

These outlets broadly align in framing, even if tone varies.

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Typical headlines (translated / paraphrased)​

Across outlets, headlines are remarkably consistent:

1) “Shock / surprise defeat”​

• “Şok yenilgi” (“Shock defeat”)sondakika
• “Sürpriz sonuç” (“Surprise result”)sondakika
• “Australia stuns Turkey” / “Turkey shaken”goal

2) “Bad start to the World Cup”​

• “Dünya Kupası’na kötü başladık” (“We started the World Cup badly”)kilimgazetesi
• “Montella için kötü başlangıç” (“Bad start for Montella”)sondakika

3) Tactical failure framing​

• “Türkiye ‘Avustralya duvarına çarptı’” (“Turkey hit the Australian wall”)sondakika

4) Emotional/player-response headlines​

• “Forgive us” apologies to fansspotmedia
• “We dominated but couldn’t score” (quotes-driven coverage)karar

Overall: the language is strong but not catastrophic—more “shock + frustration” than crisis.

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Core themes in Turkish reporting​

1) “Dominated but lost” narrative (dominant frame)​

The single most consistent theme:
Türkiye played better, but failed to convert chances

• Turkey had far more possession and shots but no goalskarar
• Media repeatedly stresses:
  • “control of the game”
  • “many chances”
  • “final third failure”

This creates a mitigated-loss narrative — performance seen as acceptable, finishing seen as the problem.

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2) Australia framed as defensive, efficient, and opportunistic​

Turkish media consistently describe Australia as:

• “disciplined”, “physical”, “well-organised”ekonomim
• Winning via:
  • counter-attacks
  • defensive structure
• “Australia wall” metaphor appears repeatedlysondakika

Tone implication:

• Loss is framed less as Turkish inferiority, more as:“we couldn’t break them down”

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3) “Shock result” relative to expectations​

Pre-match expectations matter heavily:

• Türkiye widely labelled favourite pre-gamesondakika
• Result described as:
  • “unexpected”
  • “surprising”
  • “one of the first shocks of the tournament”haberts

This amplifies disappointment but also explains the tone:

• It’s not panic — it’s surprise + recalibration

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4) Focus on Montella and tactical scrutiny​

The coach is a central narrative thread:

• “Bad start for Montella” headline framingsondakika
• Tactical questions:
  • lineup choices
  • inability to convert dominance
• But also defensive protection from media and coach:
  • Montella emphasises belief, time remaininghurriyetdailynews

Tone: critical but not hostile (yet)

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5) Missed chances & attacking inefficiency​

A major sub-theme:

• “30 shots, no goal” type framingkarar
• Repeated idea:
  • “final phase missing”
  • “couldn’t finish”
• Players like:
  • Arda Güler noted positively despite resulthaberts

This localises blame:

• Not systemic failure
• More execution problem in attack

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6) Emotional accountability (players and fans)​

Coverage includes emotional response:

• Players apologising to fansspotmedia
• Language:
  • regret
  • responsibility
  • unity

Important culturally:

• Maintains connection with supporters
• Helps soften criticism narrative

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7) “Not over yet” / recovery framing​

Almost every outlet includes forward-looking messaging:

• “Everything is still in our hands”spotmedia
• Group-stage recovery emphasized:
  • focus shifts to Paraguay and USA matches

This prevents escalation into crisis coverage.

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Overall tone of Turkish media​

Balanced but disappointed​

• Not panic-driven
• Not blaming individuals heavily (yet)
• Emphasises underperformance vs expectations
• Leans on “we played well but were punished”

Narrative summary:​

“A shocking but explainable defeat — Türkiye controlled the game but lacked finishing, while Australia executed a disciplined counter-attacking plan.”

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Key contrast vs Australian framing​

While you didn’t ask explicitly, it’s useful context:

• Australian media: focuses on
  → “major upset”, “clinical performance”, “defensive resilience”espn
• Turkish media: focuses on
  → “dominance wasted”, “missed chances”, “shock result”

Same match, two very different emphases:

• Australia = achievement
• Türkiye = missed opportunity

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Bottom line​

Across Turkish outlets, reporting converges on a clear set of themes:

1. Shock defeat given pre-match expectations
2. Türkiye dominated but couldn’t score
3. Australia praised for discipline and counter-attacking efficiency
4. Focus on tactical/finishing shortcomings—not systemic failure
5. Measured criticism of Montella
6. Forward-looking tone: recovery still possible

HonestSpursFan said:

Long story short there’s a thread citing an article from The Guardian that talked about the Socceroos and PFA’s video on multiculturalism. Now, obviously knowing Reddit and The Guardian they spin this as political and supportive of their causes, while I pointed out that Sky News would consider it supportive of their causes because it shows blokes (many of whom are fairly to ridiculously conservative) being proud of Australia.

Now, everyone one else on the thread was super political, trying to spin a fairly apolitical video about our national sports team into their agenda of supporting uncontrolled mass immigration and progressivism. I pointed out that so many progressives would be angry that they’re proud of their country, since many modern leftists don’t support patriotism. That’s where shit got out of hand. I also pointed out real facts, such as the issues faced by French Guiana, our immigration stats, our cost of living and crime crises, etc.

Mind you I’m also not even as conservative as they think. I’ve made plenty of pro-queer, pro-woman, pro-diversity comments on there too. Furthermore, the other users were not banned and users who’ve posted FAR worse stuff (including now-deleted photos of Jews being hung dead and claiming that all Sydney United fans support that) have not been banned either. It’s so authoritarian.

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There's a certain satire page on FB that posted a hit-piece in very similar vein to the reddit post you're talking about, and the comments are refreshingly full of people pointing out why their argument is dumb...

Pub League Champion said:

I want to watch the replay but with a different commentary to SBS. Anyone have any easy suggestions? I’d love to here if Simon Hill commentated.

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He did on SEN Radio with Andy Harper. I posted the video version.

Captain Haddock said:

There's a certain satire page on FB that posted a hit-piece in very similar vein to the reddit post you're talking about, and the comments are refreshingly full of people pointing out why their argument is dumb...

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The Shovel? Can’t be as bad as the Betoota Advocate which openly campaigns for Labor (this has been proven).



Funnily enough someone quoted the famous line “Please explain?” and the joke went over too many heads. This generation really does get its politics from TikTok.

CamelJuice is right. People making these articles don’t give a shit about football, they just wanna use Nestor for their political point-scoring. Sounds a bit problematic, doesn’t it? Brilliant-Dream3154 is also right, it’s slop.

your previous comments of your latest reddit visits shows they targeted you on the mods watch list.
They may even have a issue that they know you are a GG member and not like that as well
Aynway stuff that site - seems like their agendas are typical like some discussions we all have with others, get no where but their own POV.

Do we have to constantly derail match threads with politics nonsense? There’s a separate subforum for that; you can post about your reddit martyrdom there ffs.

HonestSpursFan said:

The Shovel? Can’t be as bad as the Betoota Advocate which openly campaigns for Labor (this has been proven).



Funnily enough someone quoted the famous line “Please explain?” and the joke went over too many heads. This generation really does get its politics from TikTok.

CamelJuice is right. People making these articles don’t give a shit about football, they just wanna use Nestor for their political point-scoring. Sounds a bit problematic, doesn’t it? Brilliant-Dream3154 is also right, it’s slop.

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Nah was the Betoota Advocate.

Anyways back to yesterday's game. Was at the Sydney live site, unfortunate there was only the footage from Fed Square because it was going off where we were as well. Only complaint were the selfish morons who put their umbrellas up when it started to rain.

Captain Haddock said:

Nah was the Betoota Advocate.

Anyways back to yesterday's game. Was at the Sydney live site, unfortunate there was only the footage from Fed Square because it was going off where we were as well. Only complaint were the selfish morons who put their umbrellas up when it started to rain.

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They shoulda put rainjackets up for sale.