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Football us life said:
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There's a good chance someone said exactly what you said in 1824....

And in 1924....


Imagine an Australia that's big in every sense: economically powerhouse, culturally vibrant, geopolitically weighty in the Indo-Pacific, and innovative on the world stage. A country that rejects small thinking and "populate or perish" hesitation, choosing instead to harness human capital for generational success. Cities evolve into thriving, connected metropolises, regions boom with opportunity, and diversity becomes its greatest competitive edge.....

Yes, today's roads, sewers, and utilities in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, and even Darwin show strain from legacy systems built for smaller populations.

But challenges like housing, infrastructure and congestion shouldn't be arguments against growth — they should be calls to get planning and execution right.

Australia could choose optimism and ambition over managed decline. A nation that grows boldly to secure its place in the future of an ever expanding globalised world!
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That was my point - and i think why the HSR and a filly fibre internet are important. We need to encourage growth in more than the bifg cities. while people see the HSR as an expensive project it allows population to be spread over a much larger area.
 
Or for the likes of laughing boy Sharkman Australia could just stop immigrants arriving and let the birth rate decline continue and reset to the days of 17-18 million....

A "stop the boats and let nature take its course" reset!!

Australia tried low-migration phases before. They delivered slower growth, skill gaps, and eventual policy U-turns because the costs of stagnation bite harder than the costs of managed expansion.
 
Football us life said:
Or for the likes of laughing boy Sharkman Australia could just stop immigrants arriving and let the birth rate decline continue and reset to the days of 17-18 million....

A "stop the boats and let nature take its course" reset!!

Australia tried low-migration phases before. They delivered slower growth, skill gaps, and eventual policy U-turns because the costs of stagnation bite harder than the costs of managed expansion.
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We don't need nor want a Big Australia.

Our cities have become unaffordable thanks to mass migration.

All we've got is a poorly thought out immigration policy.

We used to have a mix of people but lately all we get is Indians so you want us to become Greater India do you?
 
Football us life said:
Or for the likes of laughing boy Sharkman Australia could just stop immigrants arriving and let the birth rate decline continue and reset to the days of 17-18 million....

A "stop the boats and let nature take its course" reset!!

Australia tried low-migration phases before. They delivered slower growth, skill gaps, and eventual policy U-turns because the costs of stagnation bite harder than the costs of managed expansion.
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I'd prefer policies that target organic growth with support for families and workers that maintain a decent birth rate. Migration on the side for highly skilled workers.

Migration is slipping into a bogus college scheme and a lot of economically inactive or unviable people despite tight rules are visas. I don't think we compile stats on categories but a lot of those people do eventually leave and the next batch come in. It's rinse and repeat. There's no denying the economic boost is there from those temporary stays as long as the people are active in the economy.
 
JS96 said:
I'd prefer policies that target organic growth with support for families and workers that maintain a decent birth rate. Migration on the side for highly skilled workers.

Migration is slipping into a bogus college scheme and a lot of economically inactive or unviable people despite tight rules are visas. I don't think we compile stats on categories but a lot of those people do eventually leave and the next batch come in. It's rinse and repeat. There's no denying the economic boost is there from those temporary stays as long as the people are active in the economy.
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Good post. All good points.
 
Football us life said:
Good post. All good points.
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At least Australia has distance and tight rules. Look at the garbage Europe is going through. All these people rocking up and being gaslit into allowing them to stay or their home nations refusing documents to return.

Germany's systems used to be watertight that non citizens struggled to enter welfare or support and then they just gave way and a lot of people use it with no intention to ever work and funnel the money back home too. Send 8 blokes from a village and they bunk up together while the money also funds the town back home. That's why Afghanistan doesn't want to take their citizens back as it's an economic stabiliser.
 
JS96 said:
At least Australia has distance and tight rules. Look at the garbage Europe is going through. All these people rocking up and being gaslit into allowing them to stay or their home nations refusing documents to return.

Germany's systems used to be watertight that non citizens struggled to enter welfare or support and then they just gave way and a lot of people use it with no intention to ever work and funnel the money back home too. Send 8 blokes from a village and they bunk up together while the money also funds the town back home. That's why Afghanistan doesn't want to take their citizens back as it's an economic stabiliser.
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As I said earlier Australia tends to get more right than wrong.
 
How many people could this waste of money and corrupt process house?



Just a recap of the situation in queensland:

State government promises no new stadiums - breaks promise

The Olympic Host Contract for Brisbane 2032 states that permanent Olympic infrastructure should not be built "in statutory nature areas, cultural protected areas and World Heritage sites." - breaks this

Spending $7.1 billion and this will likely triple at least

Stealing Brisbane City Council for public purposes into freehold land controlled by olympic authority

All 17 Queensland Olympic venues are EXEMPT from 15 state planning, environmental and heritage laws,

Also lifted a ban that previously blocked property developers from making political donations.


Where's all the 'ImmmIGraantzz and HOuZing' mob in Queensland? Outrageous.
 
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tsf said:
How many people could this waste of money and corrupt process house?



Just a recap of the situation in queensland:

State government promises no new stadiums - breaks promise

The Olympic Host Contract for Brisbane 2032 states that permanent Olympic infrastructure should not be built "in statutory nature areas, cultural protected areas and World Heritage sites." - breaks this

Spending $7.1 billion and this will likely triple at least

Stealing Brisbane City Council for public purposes into freehold land controlled by olympic authority

All 17 Queensland Olympic venues are EXEMPT from 15 state planning, environmental and heritage laws,

Also lifted a ban that previously blocked property developers from making political donations.


Where's all the 'ImmmIGraantzz and HOuZing' mob in Queensland? Outrageous.
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I primarily blame Palaszczuk and her vanity project in getting the games in the first place, when no one else wanted them.
 
erogenouszone said:
You love posting links with no context don't you ?
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Context acts as the anchor that allows a collection of words, ideas, or data points to form a clear, logical, and meaningful point. Without it, communication lacks clarity

If he was able to provide context, then he would run the risk of one day making a coherent, nuanced or well-thought-out point.
 
Sure we can blame her for tthat shit decision. But these new laws are on the current government - and he said no new stadium. He had a mandate to not build it.
 
so, one commits to an event that as we know always costs a bomb ROI is utter shyte and the next gets rolled due for not spending what you don't have ($) nor recover......
I just don't get your train of thought pushing the barrow tsf.
How about commit the no new stad funding to keep improving the shit show roads that Briz metro is going through right now ?
Have you visited Briz the last year or so.
 
LFC said:
so, one commits to an event that as we know always costs a bomb ROI is utter shyte and the next gets rolled due for not spending what you don't have ($) nor recover......
I just don't get your train of thought pushing the barrow tsf.
How about commit the no new stad funding to keep improving the shit show roads that Briz metro is going through right now ?
Have you visited Briz the last year or so.
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Commiting to an event and building a stadium are two different things.

The stadium did not have to get built. They said they wouldn't do it.

They have now given away public land, they have made themselves exempt from all planning laws and now they are giving themselves a green light to get 'donations' from developers. That's the train of thought.

How anyone could even think this is remotely ok is beyond me.
 
tsf said:
Commiting to an event and building a stadium are two different things.

The stadium did not have to get built. They said they wouldn't do it.

They have now given away public land, they have made themselves exempt from all planning laws and now they are giving themselves a green light to get 'donations' from developers. That's the train of thought.

How anyone could even think this is remotely ok is beyond me.
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Except they are politicians. Core vs non-core promises? Promising no change to -ive gearing and capital gains tax?

And donations from property developers is really no different to donations from unions, in terms of influence being sought.

And a stadium of some sort needed to get built once the Olympics were awarded, it pretty much did come with committing to the event.
 
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Keeper66 said:
Except they are politicians. Core vs non-core promises? Promising no change to -ive gearing and capital gains tax?

And donations from property developers is really no different to donations from unions, in terms of influence being sought.

And a stadium of some sort needed to get built once the Olympics were awarded, it pretty much did come with committing to the event.
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We can agree to disagree. But appears you’re giving a green light to very wishy washy ‘sort ofs’ ‘pretty much’


For me, it’s pretty much clear corruption and the only people who will benefit are developers. Waste of money when everyone is sooking about housing.

I’m defending Labor here either. Both are incompetent crooks.
 
tsf said:
We can agree to disagree. But appears you’re giving a green light to very wishy washy ‘sort ofs’ ‘pretty much’


For me, it’s pretty much clear corruption and the only people who will benefit are developers. Waste of money when everyone is sooking about housing.

I’m defending Labor here either. Both are incompetent crooks.
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Ultimately Brisbane needs a new/upgraded circular stadium anyway in the next few years, which would be billions of dollars in itself (but most likely not as many billions as the Olympic stadium and other stuff needed). Without the Olympics, it’s possible that may have been the upgrade of the Gabba, but upgrading the Gabba specifically for the Olympics required the loss of a primary school, a public park (Raymond Park, incidentally the home ground of Kangaroo Point Rivers FC) and the resumption of a number of residential houses to build the athletics warmup track, which would have been a white elephant after the Olympics, so this was an unpalatable option as well.

Yes we can agree to disagree, but in my view a stadium at Victoria Park is the least worst option now that Brisbane has the Olympics in 2032.
 
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