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Sharkman84 said:
If Scicluna has switched back to us then surely Segecic should be able to come back should Popa get the arse then.
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I think it depends on age and if the youth matches were 'official' or just friendlies prior a a switch. In Segas case hes over 21, has used up his one time switch, and since played for his new association at any level. Can't come back.
 
Dan_The_Red said:
I think it depends on age and if the youth matches were 'official' or just friendlies prior a a switch. In Segas case hes over 21, has used up his one time switch, and since played for his new association at any level. Can't come back.
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I just did a quick Google search and found this.
 

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Sharkman84 said:
If Scicluna has switched back to us then surely Segecic should be able to come back should Popa get the arse then.
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Scicluna only played friendlies for Australia U20 so didn’t have to make a one-time switch to then play Euro qualifiers for Malta under age teams. Therefore his one time switch was to change back to Australia.
Segacic played in official (non-friendly) games for Australia under age teams, therefore was tied to Australia and had to apply for a one-time switch to Croatia. He has now played in an official game (Euro qualifier) for Croatia under age teams so is now locked to Croatia and cannot change back.
When a player makes a one time switch, once they play in official competition at any level (not just A international level) they are locked in and cannot change back.
 
grazorblade said:
He was drafted into the mls and is highly rated
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Well in that case we'd be hoping to bring him back if he turns out to be good. My understanding is he has no caps for any of our youth teams yet meaning a one-time switch is still an option for now and likely for many years to come. Seems odd to pick Indo over the Joeys though, especially being only part Indonesian (not tryna diminish his identity but guys like Cristian Volpato grew up with two parents from the same background so there's a stronger connection to their heritage's identity, language and culture) and since he doesn't play there (often youth teams are chosen for practicality before picking one senior team, like what Ale Circati did).
 
DDAVIES said:
I believe his 16 year old brother, Joshua is playing high school football in the US. He has already been on training camps with the HK U17 and U20. Just called up to the HK U23 for a camp next week. He must be pretty impressive. Was born in Melbourne.
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My assumption would be he qualifies by having a Hong Kong-born parent or grandparent from the British colonial era. There is a small White European community in Hong Kong (about 0.5% of the population), almost entirely White Brits.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
My assumption would be he qualifies by having a Hong Kong-born parent or grandparent from the British colonial era. There is a small White European community in Hong Kong (about 0.5% of the population), almost entirely White Brits.
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Seemingly both Mitch and Josh were born in Melbourne. The family moved to HK when Mitch was young before returning to Oz. Mitch was at the Victory academy before moving to the US college system, which led to his drafting by the Rapids. His mother has Indonesian heritage, hence why that nation are also interested in Mitch. As pointed out by someone else on this forum, he is back at Georgetown on loan. He is 19, and recently made his senior debut for Vermont Green in the US Open Cup.
 
Sharkman84 said:
I just did a quick Google search and found this.
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This is incorrect - as the regulations state:

5. A player that was:
a) granted a change of association; and
b) was not fielded in a match in any (official or unofficial) competition in any kind of football by the new association,
may request a change of association back to his former association provided he continues to hold the nationality of such association

By the terminologies of official, unofficial, competition, and kind of football used in the explainer, this means that if a player changes nationality, and then plays ANY game (friendly, or in a competition) at ANY level (this would theoretically include beach football, futsal, any underage group, etc), they are locked in.

For the avoidance of any doubt, FIFA doesn't set a nationality for international football for a player UNTIL they play an official match (non-friendly) at any age level. So if a player is selected and plays for U20 friendlies before anything else, they can be selected elsewhere later on in an official capacity for their dual nationality, and then that second selection is what initially ties them to that nation. THEN, should they wish to go back to their initial nation, they can - but only once.
 
NicCarBel said:
This is incorrect - as the regulations state:

5. A player that was:
a) granted a change of association; and
b) was not fielded in a match in any (official or unofficial) competition in any kind of football by the new association,
may request a change of association back to his former association provided he continues to hold the nationality of such association

By the terminologies of official, unofficial, competition, and kind of football used in the explainer, this means that if a player changes nationality, and then plays ANY game (friendly, or in a competition) at ANY level (this would theoretically include beach football, futsal, any underage group, etc), they are locked in.

For the avoidance of any doubt, FIFA doesn't set a nationality for international football for a player UNTIL they play an official match (non-friendly) at any age level. So if a player is selected and plays for U20 friendlies before anything else, they can be selected elsewhere later on in an official capacity for their dual nationality, and then that second selection is what initially ties them to that nation. THEN, should they wish to go back to their initial nation, they can - but only once.
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Good explanation
 
As much as I don’t like it (I want all Aussies to commit to the Socceroos), Volpato has played the dual-nationality situation smartly. He pushed for Italy — a nation that, despite their recent World Cup qualifying failures, are traditionally competing for major honours. With his chances of breaking into that squad looking slim, he’s now pivoted to an opportunity to play on the world stage in front of a massive global audience.

By comparison, players like Segacic and Pavlesic making the one-time switch the other way have taken a huge gamble with their future World Cup prospects. In my view, both would have been involved this year — Pavlesic as a third-choice keeper with an eye toward the post-Ryan era.

At this point, I’m hoping Volpato makes the matchday squad, has an outstanding World Cup, and puts himself firmly in the shop window at club level. It could also serve as a reminder to other dual nationals of how valuable playing at a World Cup can be for a player’s career. This tournament could be massive for the development and exposure of young players like Toure, Irankunda and Herrington. Segacic would’ve been in that conversation too.
 
Me after hearing Volpato news

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