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there would be plenty games on afternoon koffs - yer evening different storey obviously.
Retractable makes sense then no worries on good days.
Good one sure is a big greenhouse.
 
Football us life said:
Why not call it Christchurch United?

I'm not really a fan of these regional names....

It's too Rugby Union-esque.
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Probably an identity thing so people from other parts of the South Island like Blenheim, Dunedin, Invercargill, Nelson, Queenstown, Rolleston, Timaru, etc get behind them. The proposed Tasmania FC name for a Tassie team is similar. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if South Island United played home games in both Christchurch and Dunedin like how Tassie FC would probably play in both Hobart and Launceston.

Interestingly, as you mentioned rugby union (which is, as you said, a very region-based sport), the South Island actually has two Super Rugby teams, not one. The Crusaders play in Christchurch and represent the Buller, Canterbury, Mid-Canterbury, South Canterbury, Tasman and West Coast RFUs, while the Highlanders play in Dunedin and represent the North Otago, Otago and Southland RFUs. The South Island team is a representative team that used to play the North vs South game (similar to State of Origin here but instead of NSW versus Queensland in rugby league itā€™s the North Island versus the South Island in rugby union).
 
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Maybe because I come from the UK where we don't spend a lot of time on regional identity. At least in a football or sporting sense.

For example Middlesbrough despise Sunderland and Newcastle and vice versa x2 and there's not a chance in hell could anyone get behind a North East England football team...

And think about London or Greater London where a London football representative football team would be as popular as a poke in the eye.....

And South Wales where Cardiff and Swansea would literally have fans killing each other..

Glasgow or Greater Glasgow?

Sutherland?? šŸ¤£
 
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Agree with all of this except that the population in the whole of the South Island only around 1.2 million and only 400,000 odd in Christchurch? Whereas the north of England at a guess would have 20-25 million? South Island United is fine but doesnā€™t allow for another South Island team. Although would we really want more than 3 Kiwi teams?
 
Kitwally said:
Agree with all of this except that the population in the whole of the South Island only around 1.2 million and only 400,000 odd in Christchurch? Whereas the north of England at a guess would have 20-25 million? South Island United is fine but doesnā€™t allow for another South Island team. Although would we really want more than 3 Kiwi teams?
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Which is a very valid set of points...
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Probably an identity thing so people from other parts of the South Island like Blenheim, Dunedin, Invercargill, Nelson, Queenstown, Rolleston, Timaru, etc get behind them. The proposed Tasmania FC name for a Tassie team is similar. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if South Island United played home games in both Christchurch and Dunedin like how Tassie FC would probably play in both Hobart and Launceston.

Interestingly, as you mentioned rugby union (which is, as you said, a very region-based sport), the South Island actually has two Super Rugby teams, not one. The Crusaders play in Christchurch and represent the Buller, Canterbury, Mid-Canterbury, South Canterbury, Tasman and West Coast RFUs, while the Highlanders play in Dunedin and represent the North Otago, Otago and Southland RFUs. The South Island team is a representative team that used to play the North vs South game (similar to State of Origin here but instead of NSW versus Queensland in rugby league itā€™s the North Island versus the South Island in rugby union).
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But what if one day in the distant future, Dunedin wants their own team, like in super rugby? Thatā€™s where regional names come unstuck.
 
patjennings said:
Having been in NZ late last year football gets a much better coverage in the main stream media, including full replays.
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Iā€™d say Aussies are more diverse in the sports we enjoy (even though we enjoy the same sports just at different levels). Nobody can agree on what our national sport is (Aussie rules, cricket, rugby league, soccer?) but pretty much every Kiwi would say itā€™s rugby union, since rugby union is huge everywhere in the country and the All Blacks are hugely successful and popular (in Australia people use the same argument for cricket and the Baggy Greens, and Iā€™m sure the same argument is used there by some with cricket and the Black Caps).

All of this contributes to what sports are covered. The Aussie media pays millions for AFL and NRL rights so they constantly hype up those codes. In NZ they donā€™t follow AFL as much so the Super Rugby dominates. However, NZ is a smaller country so theyā€™re paying less for it. Maybe this is why they donā€™t spend as much time slagging off football?
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Iā€™d say Aussies are more diverse in the sports we enjoy (even though we enjoy the same sports just at different levels). Nobody can agree on what our national sport is (Aussie rules, cricket, rugby league, soccer?) but pretty much every Kiwi would say itā€™s rugby union, since rugby union is huge everywhere in the country and the All Blacks are hugely successful and popular (in Australia people use the same argument for cricket and the Baggy Greens, and Iā€™m sure the same argument is used there by some with cricket and the Black Caps).
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The difference there is that the main stream media doesn't try to bury football in a 15 second spot on the news.
 
patjennings said:
The difference there is that the main stream media doesn't try to bury football in a 15 second spot on the news.
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I added a paragraph to answer that question. šŸ˜ƒ

Kiwi media pays less money for sports because NZ is a much smaller country. Aussie media pays so much so they spend half their time slagging off soccer and its culture while ignoring the same shit in other codes.
 
Should've had sustainable club projects in Tasmania, Sunshine Coast and Canberra for a decade now. I think if the clubs start small and allow for growth rather than overstretching too early is the way to go.
 
Kitwally said:
Agree with all of this except that the population in the whole of the South Island only around 1.2 million and only 400,000 odd in Christchurch? Whereas the north of England at a guess would have 20-25 million?
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Now youā€™re getting it! The population argument is a huge factor. Tassie is similar, only about 40% of Tasmanians live in Hobart (the lowest percent of residents living in the state/territory capital in the country; in every other state/territory except Queensland (about 45% in Brissie) where over 50% live in the capital).

Tassie currently has four sports teams: the Hurricanes (BBL/WBBL), the JackJumpers (NBL), the Jewels (WNBL) and the Tigers (Hockey One), plus the upcoming Devils (AFL/AFLW/VFL/VFLW). While all of those are primarily based in Hobart, only the Hurricanes have ā€œHobartā€ in their name as opposed to ā€œTasmaniaā€, ā€œTasmanianā€ or ā€œTassieā€ and only the Tigers play exclusively in Hobart. The Devils (in the future), Hurricanes and JackJumpers all play some games in Launceston while the Jewels (who will be joining the WNBL this year) will play some games in both Devonport and Launceston. Therefore, Iā€™m sure an ALM/ALW team from Tassie (Tasmania FC?) would play in both Hobart and Launceston. An NRL/NRLW team there would do the same but thereā€™s more chance of Man City getting relegated for their 115 charges than someone even suggesting that Tassie get a rugby team (they quite literally donā€™t give a fuck about rugby of any kind unless itā€™s the national team).

For South Island United it would be modelled similarly just without any precedent. The South Island has two Super Rugby teams (the Crusaders play in Christchurch while the Highlanders play in Dunedin). I assume the NRL/NRLW would go for the same model if they added the South Island Kea (a proposed second NZ team).
 
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