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Aussies abroad šŸŒšŸ¦˜

rebelliousfeminist974 said:
Raphael Borges Rodrigues getting an assist for Wigan Athletic who are now three goals up against Rotherham United in their League One game.
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In good form and playing in a problem position

Probably a chance for the asian cup if he is playing at a good level
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Canā€™t believe he picked playing under-21s for Croatia over an entire international career with the Socceroos.
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You could see with all three players how miserable they were flying half way around the world, inviting their families to see their debuts then not getting a single minute. Then you go back to your club and your agent, family and coach are all saying "stuff them they dont appreciate you". Then you are getting a call literally every week from another fed and very rarely from us

Its a different generation because in poppas era you would just respond by getting hungrier but it is what it is and we have to adapt. Lost two elite players needs to stop there
 
grazorblade said:
You could see with all three players how miserable they were flying half way around the world, inviting their families to see their debuts then not getting a single minute. Then you go back to your club and your agent, family and coach are all saying "stuff them they dont appreciate you". Then you are getting a call literally every week from another fed and very rarely from us

Its a different generation because in poppas era you would just respond by getting hungrier but it is what it is and we have to adapt. Lost two elite players needs to stop there
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I wonder if they come from nationalistic families. Even if thatā€™s the case itā€™s extremely disappointing and even infuriating that families whoā€™ve been here for decades donā€™t see themselves as Aussies, rather as just X but living in Australia.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Good game, ended 2ā€“2. DPMMā€™s goalie (Haimie Nyaring, plays for the Brunei national team) was outstanding and made a lot of saves. Both teamsā€™ strikers played quite well but were defensively not so good. Midfielder Takumi Sasaki scored for Negeri Sembilan and was quite good. Jordan Murray (an Aussie playing for DPMM) played quite well.

While DPMM started out as a college team, it's now royal club and their name stands for Duli Pengiran Muda Mahkota (Malay for "His Royal Highness the Crown Prince") and is owned by Crown Prince Al-Muhtadee Billah. The Bruneian Royal family is immensely wealthy due to oil and gas reserves (Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah is worth between $28 and $50 billion, lives in the worldā€™s largest palace which features over 7,000 luxury cars worth $5 billion in total (including over 600 Rolls-Royces) and a gold-plated Boeing 747). Therefore Iā€™m not surprised at all that the Royals pay for everything the players have. In Brunei people donā€™t even pay tax on personal earnings, capital gains, sales or VAT (though businesses pay an 18.5% tax and 8.5% of workerā€™s salaries goes to the National Retirement Scheme (SRK), which is basically superannuation). The catch is though Brunei is a highly socially conservative Islamic absolute monarchy (meaning no elections) blending sharia law with British colonial common law and Malay culture (under the Malay Islamic Monarchy (MIM) state ideology) to govern public and private life, where being LGBTQ is highly illegal and punishable, and publicly celebrating non-Muslim holidays like Christmas and Easter (e.g. publicly reading or importing the Bible, giving Christmas presents, buying Easter eggs, doing Secret Santa, dressing up festively, singing carols, etc) is illegal.

Interestingly DPMM actually played in Singapore until last year. I find this surprising as Brunei is surrounded by the Malaysian state of Sarawak on Borneo (ironically Sarawak is Malaysiaā€™s only Christian-majority state due to its majority-Indigenous population and the only one where English can take official precedence over the government-privileged Malay language), while Singapore is across the ocean. Brunei and Malaysia are also more culturally, ethnically and linguistically similar, with Malay-speaking Malay Muslims being the dominant ethnic group in both countries.
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Iā€™ve been to Brunei many times. The airport only has 8 gates in an octagon shape. Has to be one of the smallest international airports in the world. Royal Brunei Air used to have flights from a few cities in Australia, now I think only Melbourne. I used to fly down to Sabah cheaply from China with 20 minutes at Brunei airport and then a 20 minute flight to Kota Kinabalu. Itā€™s a tiny country, thereā€™s kind of a reasonably attractive mosque and markets. Itā€™s literally a dry country, though you can get booze at the yacht club, and thereā€™s a duty free island called Labuan (similar to Langkawi) nearby if you want to smuggle. Aussies are one of the few nationalities that require a paid visa, apparently because one of the Sultan of Bruneiā€™s ex-wives was an Aussie and he hates her (you donā€™t need a visa to transit).
 
rebelliousfeminist974 said:
Brunei DPMM did well in the Singapore Premier League, winning two titles in 2015 and 2019 but I think they opted to move to the Malaysia Super League for more of a challenge because the standard of the league in Singapore is on par with NPL Victoria and they ended up finishing mid-table in their last two seasons.
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Apart from Johor (JDT), the standard of the Malaysian League is worse than Singapore I would say.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
I wonder if they come from nationalistic families. Even if thatā€™s the case itā€™s extremely disappointing and even infuriating that families whoā€™ve been here for decades donā€™t see themselves as Aussies, rather as just X but living in Australia.
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ZZZZZZZ aren't you sick of the same old xenophobia over and over and over again? We live in a multicultural society where people from every corner of the globe are huddled here, welcome to live their lives based on who they are and what they believe.

If you want people to see themselves as Aussie so badly stop fuckin telling them they are not.
 
grazorblade said:
You could see with all three players how miserable they were flying half way around the world, inviting their families to see their debuts then not getting a single minute. Then you go back to your club and your agent, family and coach are all saying "stuff them they dont appreciate you". Then you are getting a call literally every week from another fed and very rarely from us

Its a different generation because in poppas era you would just respond by getting hungrier but it is what it is and we have to adapt. Lost two elite players needs to stop there
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1. Lets say if most of these socceroo players playing in top 4 league then flying half way around the world and dont get 1 minute wouldnt be a problem.

2. Sometimes you have to ask yourself did you feel proud to represent Australia or another more? Best way to test that lets say if you watch olympic games and Croatia vs Australia for a gold medal if you are cheering Croatia then you shouldnā€™t represent Australia
 
TBH in regards to dual nationals I'm glad certain players have chosen to represent other teams and moved on.

They obviously were not that committed to Australia to so easily move aside. Plus I've seen how toxic some national teams have been, looking at you USA, due to certain players have HUGE entitlement issues and it really can fester and rot the team inside out, no matter how great of a player they are. It's not worth it in my mind. I don't want the socceroos to have drama outside the pitch. We've been a pretty damn cohesive team drama free for the most part for many years now and that has been one of our biggest strengths. Huge reason why we have on many occasions been able to punch above our weight I believe is due to how close knit our squad is and how unified we have been as team. Greater than the sum of our parts.

I want the socceroos to have players fully and utterly committed to Australia and it's jersey, and for our team to have no room for big egos who care only about their status in the team.
 
Kitwally said:
Aussies are one of the few nationalities that require a paid visa, apparently because one of the Sultan of Bruneiā€™s ex-wives was an Aussie and he hates her (you donā€™t need a visa to transit).
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Lol thatā€™s actually a hilarious reason if true.

I havenā€™t done Brunei yet but Iā€™m told thereā€™s little else there and that they have prayer calls on loudspeaker. Should probably ask in the Travelogue thread but what were your thoughts on Brunei?
 
Monoethnic Social Club said:
ZZZZZZZ aren't you sick of the same old xenophobia over and over and over again? We live in a multicultural society where people from every corner of the globe are huddled here, welcome to live their lives based on who they are and what they believe.

If you want people to see themselves as Aussie so badly stop fuckin telling them they are not.
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Itā€™s not xenophobia. If I moved to Japan and lived there for generations but still refused to call myself Japanese or learn the Japanese language donā€™t you think that would be a bit controversial?

Multiculturalism is fine. Iā€™m against mass unrestricted immigration but I welcome everyone who comes here and wants to be Australian and hold Australian values.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Lol thatā€™s actually a hilarious reason if true.

I havenā€™t done Brunei yet but Iā€™m told thereā€™s little else there and that they have prayer calls on loudspeaker. Should probably ask in the Travelogue thread but what were your thoughts on Brunei?
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Donā€™t bother. Boring as. No reason to go there unless youā€™re collecting passport stamps.
 
mkxx said:
1. Lets say if most of these socceroo players playing in top 4 league then flying half way around the world and dont get 1 minute wouldnt be a problem.

2. Sometimes you have to ask yourself did you feel proud to represent Australia or another more? Best way to test that lets say if you watch olympic games and Croatia vs Australia for a gold medal if you are cheering Croatia then you shouldnā€™t represent Australia
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What happens if you are cheering both and happy for either to win?
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Itā€™s not xenophobia. If I moved to Japan and lived there for generations but still refused to call myself Japanese or learn the Japanese language donā€™t you think that would be a bit controversial?

Multiculturalism is fine. Iā€™m against mass unrestricted immigration but I welcome everyone who comes here and wants to be Australian and hold Australian values.
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Well, if you don't understand multiculturalism then I am against you having any say in what are or aren't considered Australian values.
 
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