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Women's dual internationals thread

rebelliousfeminist974 said:
Vesna Milivojevic and Tyla-Jay Vlajnic both start for Serbia in their UEFA Women's World Cup qualifying group A1 game against Sweden.
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Surprised that TJV still gets picked let alone has a starting position in a game against a top side. She’s at South Melbourne but starting against Sweden? Playing world-class European players one week and Victorian semi-pros and amateurs the next?

Vesna is clearly a starter for Serbia now. It’s such a shame she came through in the Tony Gustavsson era and thus never got a chance for the Tillies so went straight to Serbia when they came knocking. That’s my worry for Daniela Galić who’s still technically eligible for Croatia. Even though she’s a regular for the under-20s and under-23s if she isn’t capped at the World Cup we could possibly still lose her.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Bianca Galić starts again!
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Bianca Galic starting for Croatia in their UEFA Women's World Cup qualifying group C2 game against Kosovo, their last match in the March international window before returning to Sydney FC and helping them avoid the spoon when Dub action resumes Friday.
 
Vesna Milivojevic played the entirety of Serbia's scoreless UEFA Women's World Cup qualifying group A1 draw with Sweden. Tyla-Jay Vlajnic started and played the entire first half for Serbia before being subbed off at the half.
 
Stacey Papadopoulos starts for Greece in their UEFA Women's World Cup qualifying group C4 game against the Faroe Islands.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
Greece won 2–0. Croatia lost 1–0. Serbia drew 0–0.
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Stacey Papadopoulos played the entirety of Greece's 2-0 UEFA Women's World Cup qualifying group C4 win over the Faroe Islands. Bianca Galic started and played 62 minutes for Croatia in their 1-0 UEFA Women's World Cup qualifying group C2 loss to Kosovo before being subbed off.
 
Unfortunately Australia is losing players to other countries because there is no real program for developing players for the national team.
Hopefully there are plans for the next generation of Matildas because, the Asian Cup not withstanding, we seem to be at a standstill. This is obvious from the reaction (panic?) to the loss of Micah and the potential loss of Arnold in the current tournament.
 
libelous said:
Unfortunately Australia is losing players to other countries because there is no real program for developing players for the national team.
Hopefully there are plans for the next generation of Matildas because, the Asian Cup not withstanding, we seem to be at a standstill. This is obvious from the reaction (panic?) to the loss of Micah and the potential loss of Arnold in the current tournament.
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Totally agree with the fact that the Matildas are stagnating because there is no transition from the farm system to the senior Tillies setup, as well as the flawed selection policy which is leading to our promising youth prospects who are eligible for other countries unfortunately jumping ship.
 
libelous said:
Unfortunately Australia is losing players to other countries because there is no real program for developing players for the national team.
Hopefully there are plans for the next generation of Matildas because, the Asian Cup not withstanding, we seem to be at a standstill. This is obvious from the reaction (panic?) to the loss of Micah and the potential loss of Arnold in the current tournament.
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To word this better I think it’s that we keep picking the wrong players. In that case you’re absolutely right. We’re still developing quality players but we seem to be keeping existing veterans until they decide to retire rather than gradually replacing them like other quality teams with quality players do.

The period with Tom Sermanni was quite bad when you look at the results of the SheBelieves Cup, but on the plus side at least he gave the younger girls a chance. If Joe Montemurro can A. win the Asian Cup AND B. integrate more of the youngsters including regular call-ups and caps for the impressive ones, then he’ll be revered as a hero in Asian football.

I know I keep using Daniela Galić as an example but she’s a very good example. If we picked players based on their performances at a club level pre-Asian Cup she gets in midfield way before Emily van Egmond does. If we look at the striker position Annalise Rasmussen gets in way before Michelle Heyman does and just as much as Sharn Freier and Holly McNamara do. Obviously there’s leeway for legends like Hayley Raso who can still perform in the green and gold, but it’s still quite easy to see who gets in and who doesn’t.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
To word this better I think it’s that we keep picking the wrong players. In that case you’re absolutely right. We’re still developing quality players but we seem to be keeping existing veterans until they decide to retire rather than gradually replacing them like other quality teams with quality players do.

The period with Tom Sermanni was quite bad when you look at the results of the SheBelieves Cup, but on the plus side at least he gave the younger girls a chance. If Joe Montemurro can A. win the Asian Cup AND B. integrate more of the youngsters including regular call-ups and caps for the impressive ones, then he’ll be revered as a hero in Asian football.

I know I keep using Daniela Galić as an example but she’s a very good example. If we picked players based on their performances at a club level pre-Asian Cup she gets in midfield way before Emily van Egmond does. If we look at the striker position Annalise Rasmussen gets in way before Michelle Heyman does and just as much as Sharn Freier and Holly McNamara do. Obviously there’s leeway for legends like Hayley Raso who can still perform in the green and gold, but it’s still quite easy to see who gets in and who doesn’t.
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But who is doing the developing? It seems to me that if a player is good enough to get a contract overseas they go and then hope they get noticed by the hierarchy.
I think Tom Sermanni was on a ‘hiding to nothing’ for the entire time he was in charge. FA’s only objective seemed to be to get Joe Montemurro at all costs and then hope for the best.
It remains to be seen if he is the ‘messiah’!
 
libelous said:
But who is doing the developing? It seems to me that if a player is good enough to get a contract overseas they go and then hope they get noticed by the hierarchy.
I think Tom Sermanni was on a ‘hiding to nothing’ for the entire time he was in charge. FA’s only objective seemed to be to get Joe Montemurro at all costs and then hope for the best.
It remains to be seen if he is the ‘messiah’!
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We do the developing here. None of those players mentioned developed overseas. Foreign scouts are watching the A-League. Of the Aussie players that are playing for European national teams only one got picked while playing in Europe (Stacey Pap, who got picked last year at 28 turning 29 while playing for Hibs).

Vesna Milivojević got picked for Serbia in 2022 when she played for Canberra United (probably being watched while playing at Borussia Bocholt in Germany and especially Spartak Subotica in Serbia but still). She’s probably the only one I regret losing for now.
 
libelous said:
But who is doing the developing? It seems to me that if a player is good enough to get a contract overseas they go and then hope they get noticed by the hierarchy.
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The players should be developed both at their clubs as well as in the Matildas farm system, and ideally Montemurro should be promoting those players to the senior Matildas playing list in addition to the experienced names as opposed to keeping the old guard which should in theory mean the likes of Peta Trimis and Shelby McMahon end up following suit with Alexia Apostolakis and Grace Kuilamu in eventually getting Tillies caps at senior level.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
We do the developing here. None of those players mentioned developed overseas. Foreign scouts are watching the A-League. Of the Aussie players that are playing for European national teams only one got picked while playing in Europe (Stacey Pap, who got picked last year at 28 turning 29 while playing for Hibs).

Vesna Milivojević got picked for Serbia in 2022 when she played for Canberra United (probably being watched while playing at Borussia Bocholt in Germany and especially Spartak Subotica in Serbia but still). She’s probably the only one I regret losing for now.
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I was referring to them being developed for the Australian national team not European national teams.
There seems to be a very ad hoc approach at junior levels but then it’s a matter of going overseas and hoping to be remembered.
 
libelous said:
I was referring to them being developed for the Australian national team not European national teams.
There seems to be a very ad hoc approach at junior levels but then it’s a matter of going overseas and hoping to be remembered.
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Keep in mind some players who go overseas aren’t good enough for the Tillies. It’s the same as how American and European players in the A-League aren’t playing for their national teams. Nevertheless I like keeping track of all Aussies abroad, whether it’s our legendary skipper at Chelsea or an ex-NPL SA player in Greece (both of those players exist!).
 
Angie Beard scoring in the 47th minute for the Philippines in their Women's Asian Cup play-in match against Uzbekistan, which they currently lead 1-0 in the second half.
 
Katia Clement (Oh Dan-bi) from UNSW FC, a Korean Australian, will be playing at the U20 Asian Cup for South Korea. She’s 17.
 
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