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Expansion Thread 🪜

good for you - but it really does sound like Canberra - which means 14 teams from 2027/2028 is very likely. The last two more speculative but their is a very active bid for the Gold Coast currently

The Gold Coast A-League license bid is being actively pursued as of February 2026. Following the expansion of the league to 14 teams with Auckland FC and Canberra, the Australian Professional Leagues (APL) is currently evaluating bids for the 15th and 16th licenses.
Current Status of the Bid
Active Bidder: The bid, led by chairman Danny Maher, remains "on the table" and is positioned as a primary contender for the next expansion phase aimed at the 2026–27 or 2027–28 seasons.
Expansion Timeline: In February 2026, the APL confirmed that a new expansion club will enter for the 2027–28 season, with the evaluation process for these final spots ongoing.
Investment Backing: The bid continues to be supported by international investors, including Benevolent Capital, which has existing stakes in clubs like Ipswich Town and Phoenix Rising.
Community Integration: Unlike the previous Gold Coast United model, this bid is a "grassroots-driven" venture involving local NPL clubs and a unified football plan for the region.

Key Components of the Active Bid
Organisers have maintained that they are "ready to go" with a complete operational and financial plan.

Assume that Gold Coast gets number 15 - that effectively sidelines a second Brisbane bid and with Macquarie Pt being built Tasmania suddenly goes to the next in line
Pat, I have been accused of being prepared to die on this hill: there will not in the foreseeable future be an A League team based in Tasmania. I won't die on this hill, but I am prepared to dig in the heels of my gumboots into the Tasmanian mud from which I was raised. The economy is nonexistent; the AFL stadium is very likely to bankrupt the state; a declining population split between north and south, and ne'er the twixt shall meet; and an utterly AFL-dominated culture. No investor outside of a sectioned mental health residency would invest the many millions of dollars a bid will require in this state.

As a Tas expat (long, long gone now) I would prefer this not to be case, but I do not expect to be proven wrong. Please note these claims are only current for my lifetime, for which forecasts are variable.
 
When the Fury folded, it crushed dreams and ended careers overnight. Now, on the 15-year anniversary of the club’s demise, we reveal how local teenagers drive hours just to stay on the radar.

Twice a week, a group of 12 teenagers pile into cars in Ingham for a tough round trip down the Bruce Highway to Townsville.

They aren’t doing it for fun; they are doing it because in the sprawling landscape of North Queensland, chasing a professional football dream requires relentless sacrifice and big petrol bills.

Fifteen years after the North Queensland Fury folded, the region’s geographical isolation continues to heavily tax its brightest young talents.

And with the A-League currently contracting – with Western United out of the top flight and the Mariners Academy going bust – the pathway for regional kids is narrower than ever.

For the local coaches fighting to keep these kids on the radar, the absence of a northern A-League team isn’t just a missed opportunity, it is a systemic failure forcing families to completely uproot their lives or abandon dreams entirely.

A LOST GENERATION

Former New Zealand international striker and the veteran of more than 100 games in the A-League, Jeremy Brockie believes the lack of a professional club in North Queensland has created a lost generation of footballers.

Brockie reignited a flagging professional career under Ian Ferguson in the Fury’s inaugural season and has since forged a life after football through his JB Football Academy.

Brockie has watched countless young athletes come through the junior system in regional Queensland and emerge into a black hole of options.

With the Brisbane Roar the only professional outfit servicing the entire Sunshine State, it leaves families of young footballers with little option other than to relocate to chase a dream.

Brockie knows for many in the regions, it just isn’t possible.

“The commitment and talent and quality (in this region) is there for everybody to see,” Brockie said.

“Unfortunately for someone like myself who also grew up in a small regional town, it’s hard to get those opportunities now. Unless you’re under the eyes of the big people down in the big cities, it’s difficult and it’s up to people like myself to try and push them toward opportunities down south.

“It’s not easy from a family point of view when you’ve got other siblings to think about.

“I feel like it would be nice to be able to get the opportunity to bring a professional club here again and set some proper foundations and then give the people of the north real opportunity.”

The loss of the Fury was a bitter blow for the local players still on the roster in 2011.

Former Fury goalkeeper Matt Ham went from cashing in on his dreams to a career crash out inside 12 months because of the Fury folding.

After spending years as understudy to some of the game’s top glovemen and under the eye of legendary coaches in Frank Farina and Ange Postecoglou, Ham was floored when his hometown club offered him his first full-time contract.

A year later the then-Football Federation of Australia (FFA) had pulled its funding, the Fury was wound up, and coming off an anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction, Ham was left out in the cold.

“I was a fringe player and a goalkeeper. You know I was f---ed either way,” Ham said.

“I couldn’t play overseas because I didn’t have any passport … the fact that I was never gonna get that chance again, unless I went to that state system, I was out.

“That year was pretty hard for me because I went from one of the highest of the highs to one of the lowest of the lows.”

PRIDE BEFORE THE FALL

The North Queensland Fury lasted two years.

The Fury, like many clubs across the A-League, felt the pinch of sole ownership and a crushing financial strain.

When owner Don Matheson burned through his back pocket by the end of year one, he was bailed out by the FFA, who didn’t have the financial means to prop up a club with diminishing crowd numbers and rising overheads.

Skeptics argue the FFA only propped up the club to boost its doomed 2022 FIFA World Cup bid, but when that was awarded to a controversial Qatar bid, the writing was on the wall.

While the truth is likely found somewhere in between, Brockie believed a different approach was needed.

“I think trying to come into a very dominated rugby league town and city, I felt like at the very top, we were probably trying to compete with the Cowboys rather than maybe trying to lean on them,” Brockie said.

“(We needed to) get some experience on how to set up a proper environment and fan base and all those types of things.

“The club probably didn’t put as much thought process into that, which led to us running out of money and losing the club.

“I think (Matheson) was probably looking at it as this is his baby that he wants to be successful while the money is pouring out of his back pocket … sometimes maybe you’ve got that much money that you think you’re a little bit invincible or you can’t ask for help.”

REDISCOVERING THE RAGE

Brockie and Ham both agree that a professional football team belongs in North Queensland.

But rebuilding from the ashes 15 years later won’t be easy.

The tangible links to the professional level have been eradicated with Football Queensland North handing in its own state league license more than seven years ago, instead redirecting its funding into the junior levels.

Ham believed the region could sustain supporting a new football team outside of the North Queensland Cowboys, but any fresh organisation needed to take a lesson from the NRL community powerhouse.

“(You need) 10 years of just support to build up a foundation and then engage into junior soccer. Get the kids to see that there’s a pathway to here and then that brings your parents in,” Ham said.

“To expect to do that in two years time, to fill up the stadium in two years, is hard up here even in football country.

“I feel like you just need to have time to build up a fan base sometimes. It was hard to be a Fury fan because there was no certainty, you don’t know if you’re gonna be there next year.

“I just think if you’re gonna be in a football town, you just need time to establish yourselves. You need heroes, you need finals appearances, you need some really good home games.

I just don’t think we had enough opportunities to do that.”

“The region definitely needs it,” Brockie said.

“I think if you set it up properly, it would just provide so many more opportunities for players and families up here. I think we’ve still got the facilities and … the stadium location now. I think it would make it even more of a success.”

 
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Pat, I have been accused of being prepared to die on this hill: there will not in the foreseeable future be an A League team based in Tasmania. I won't die on this hill, but I am prepared to dig in the heels of my gumboots into the Tasmanian mud from which I was raised. The economy is nonexistent; the AFL stadium is very likely to bankrupt the state; a declining population split between north and south, and ne'er the twixt shall meet; and an utterly AFL-dominated culture. No investor outside of a sectioned mental health residency would invest the many millions of dollars a bid will require in this state.

As a Tas expat (long, long gone now) I would prefer this not to be case, but I do not expect to be proven wrong. Please note these claims are only current for my lifetime, for which forecasts are variable.
TBH - they are the one I am most skeptical about.
 

So basically the AFL said: "Hey, I know we already get so much money every year from the government, but how dare you support the development of another growing code played all around the world that gets limited funding in Australia! Give us more money even though we already get billions a year!"
 
I listened to that part of the pod this afternoon.. absolute joke.. but sadly not unexpected.

The other shocking part was about the staffer of the Vic Govt who provided incorrect info to FA which also affected the decision (skip to 1:01:57 if the direct link doesn't work):

 
I listened to that part of the pod this afternoon.. absolute joke.. but sadly not unexpected.

The other shocking part was about the staffer of the Vic Govt who provided incorrect info to FA which also affected the decision (skip to 1:01:57 if the direct link doesn't work):


I think you misheard.

It sounded like the Vic govt official told his staffer that the he didn't think the FA got the message. Basically there was $110M dollars for a Dandenong stadium. The staffer was suppose to get the message back to the FA ( I gather at his level). That FA employee then told the FA hierarchy that there was money for a stadium in Dandenong and there never was. The said FA employee when this was discovered was out of a job.
 
I think you misheard.
I just listened again to confirm (I originally listened while driving so may not have been giving my full attention) - but I think I heard it right?

1:02:35

"One of the senior ministers in there at the time went and told one of his underlings 'I'm not sure the FA people in the room got the message, can you please go and let them know... ' "

"This person went to the high ranking FA official that they were told to go and tell"

"That person said to them, there is no money for a stadium in Dandedong, never was, never will be"

"The government said that to FA official?"

"Yep"
 
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I just relistened - still reckon you misheard. Who was sacked it sounded like an FA underling not a Government underling.

Vic Minister (there is $110m tell the FA) >>>
underling >>>>
FA underling (later sacked) there is no money for a stadium - never was >>>>
FA hierarchy
 
I'm with @chuq. I only listened to it once but it seemed clear that the government worker completely reversed the message (rather suspiciously) and was subsequently sacked the day after the government found out.

That one move probably cost the sport a great club.
 
I'm with @chuq. I only listened to it once but it seemed clear that the government worker completely reversed the message (rather suspiciously) and was subsequently sacked the day after the government found out.

That one move probably cost the sport a great club.
just listened for the third and fourth time - still disagree
 
just listened for the third and fourth time - still disagree
You've mentioned "FA underling" or "FA employee", I can't hear any reference to that.

In this story, the parties I hear are FA hierarchy, government hierarchy, and government underling (who got fired). No FA underling.
 
So basically the AFL said: "Hey, I know we already get so much money every year from the government, but how dare you support the development of another growing code played all around the world that gets limited funding in Australia! Give us more money even though we already get billions a year!"
Not exactly, **somebody in AFL circles** admonished **somebody** financing the Team XI bid reminding them they were a footy person WTF where they paying for a soccer team for...
 
I think you misheard.

It sounded like the Vic govt official told his staffer that the he didn't think the FA got the message. Basically there was $110M dollars for a Dandenong stadium. The staffer was suppose to get the message back to the FA ( I gather at his level). That FA employee then told the FA hierarchy that there was money for a stadium in Dandenong and there never was. The said FA employee when this was discovered was out of a job.
Rumour going around at the time was that fat brown envelope appeared in a FFA persons hand and the state gov staffer was the sacrificial goat....
 
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