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Beretta said:
currently there is no proof, (from what i've seen so far) of any racist comments directed at Vini.

its he said, she said atm.
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I said both are great players & are provokers, but noone should be racially abused, no matter how bad you provoke someone.
So Vini is not in the wrong because he is no Saint. So that matter should be closed. That was what I took umbrage on your comment.

Now we get to the he said & she said, Lets discuss this if you want.
 
Robbos said:
I said both are great players & are provokers, but noone should be racially abused, no matter how bad you provoke someone.
So Vini is not in the wrong because he is no Saint. So that matter should be closed. That was what I took umbrage on your comment.

Now we get to the he said & she said, Lets discuss this if you want.
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i was talking about previous drama surrounding him. Hence, why he aint no saint.

i'm not going to waste my time talking about hypotheticals.
 
Beretta said:
some would argue he "incited" the crowd, but who give a fuck, that's football.

He's actions are always dramatic, him and that ninja turtle are the biggest sooks in the game. It's not the first time he has been Centre of attention. He seems the type that can dish it out but can't take it.
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Don't think he did anything wrong.

Don't think anything warrants getting racially abused.

Lets wait and see what comes out from the investigation. Probably a hard one to prove unless his teammates heard him and admit it.
 
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Beretta said:
i was talking about previous drama surrounding him. Hence, why he aint no saint.


This is not hypotheticals, he has accused someone of racially abusing him,
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His previous dramas surrounding him has no bearing here, not sure why this is an issue.

The issue & it's not hypothetical, unless you don't take these issues seriously is that he has accused someone of racially abusing him.

That is a serious allegation in my book. Why would he cover his face with his shirt to say 'Great goal Vini'?
This is where the investigation should start.
I have family who are members of Benfica & are horrified at the allegations.

If you don't think this allegation is worthy to discuss, then drop out of the conversation. It certainly isn't hypothetical!!!!
 
Robbos said:
His previous dramas surrounding him has no bearing here, not sure why this is an issue.

The issue & it's not hypothetical, unless you don't take these issues seriously is that he has accused someone of racially abusing him.

That is a serious allegation in my book. Why would he cover his face with his shirt to say 'Great goal Vini'?
This is where the investigation should start.
I have family who are members of Benfica & are horrified at the allegations.

If you don't think this allegation is worthy to discuss, then drop out of the conversation. It certainly isn't hypothetical!!!!
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it does have bearing as drama always follows him, and he is a provocator.

Players cover their mouths all the time during and after matches.

Until you got proof it was racial, you got nothing.
 
Beretta said:
it does have bearing as drama always follows him, and he is a provocator.

Players cover their mouths all the time during and after matches.

Until you got proof it was racial, you got nothing.
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I agree with you, but until you have proof that he didn't we have the same argument.
 
Beretta said:
he could just be crying because the player told him you'll never win the Ballon D'or ?!

who knows...
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Again you are blaming the victim, you are just gaslighting. Showing your true colours, but than you have shown that before.
 
The instant reaction of Vini Jr was very telling I thought...

Seeing that tell's me that it really was an unsavoury remark rather than the normal sledging you might get on the field.
 
Beretta said:
Take a joke, you uptight C lol.
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This is a serious allegation & you are right it's near impossible to prove as it's he said & she said.
Both Vini Jr & Mbappe said he said it, Priestianni says he didn't.
And you keep slagging of the victim, Fucking hilarious.
 
Robbos said:
This is a serious allegation & you are right it's near impossible to prove as it's he said & she said.
Both Vini Jr & Mbappe said he said it, Priestianni says he didn't.
And you keep slagging of the victim, Fucking hilarious.
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It is serious, and until proven, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

The victim is a provoker which I mentioned numerous times, so spare me the BS until I see evidence.
 
Beretta said:
It is serious, and until proven, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

The victim is a provoker which I mentioned numerous times, so spare me the BS until I see evidence.
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By “The victim is a provoker”? You mean his skin colour provokes people to make racist comments? How does an allegedly “inappropriate” celebration provoke a racist comment from a fellow player?
It’s possible that he has a mental problem and that he loves the drama and attention, but it’s extremely unlikely.
 
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