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Steve Rosich Interview

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A-League boss Steve Rosich says negotiations will continue with players association Professional Footballers Australia (PFA) regarding plans to install a hard $3 million salary cap in the men’s competition.
Rosich, who was appointed CEO of the Australian Professional Leagues (APL) late last year, had to hit the ground running in the role, dealing with collective bargaining agreement and broadcast deal negotiations.

And in just his second week behind the desk, the APL had to step in and take over the running of Central Coast Mariners with previous owner Mike Charlseworth relinquishing the licence.

“It’s been incredibly pleasing that more than 12 parties from international organisations and here in Australia have been very engaged with the league and in exploring the opportunity at Central Coast Mariners,” he said.

Rosich is also working through the negotiations for the new CBAs to cover the men’s and women’s leagues.

APL executive chair Stephen Conroy last year announced plans to introduce a $3 million hard salary cap to the men’s league for the 2026/27 season.

Currently clubs have a soft $2.25 million salary cap and can sign two marquee players and then have two designated players — their salaries fall outside the cap.

The new proposal is for just one marquee player.

On top of that women’s players are calling for full-time professional 12-month contracts as opposed to the current part-time nine-month contracts offered.

In a wide-ranging interview with Code Sports, Rosich addressed many of the challenges ahead for the A-Leagues and why they are part of the reason he took on the job.

CODE: Obviously there are some pretty significant financial issues at the APL and across all clubs in the A-Leagues. What role do you think the APL and you have to play in helping stabilise the clubs and competition?

STEVE ROSICH: Well, firstly there’s a lot of work that’s been done already to stabilise the league finances led by Stephen Conroy and the board and it is certainly beneficial to me to be starting after a lot of that hard work has been done. It is providing us with a platform to grow from here. There needs to be a continued focus on growth to ultimately increase the profitability not of just the league but right across the whole ecosystem. There is and will continue to be a core focus on growing our revenues and our visibility and fan engagement so we can use growth as a platform to the pathway to profitability.

CODE: It is hard to be visible when there is not a lot of spare cash floating around. What do you think needs to happen to make the league more visible?

SR: We’re seeing some positive trends with both TV audiences and crowds. Last season we had the fourth consecutive year of growth in TV audiences, and also the highest total season attendance since 2016-17. Now they’re not at the levels that we want to get to. We’re also seeing some positive trends in crowds this season. We’ve had a really strong month and seeing some upside in the Perth market, Newcastle market and Brisbane with their performances. Last weekend at the Big Blue in Melbourne which I attended there was a strong crowd and an increase on the same game in the prior year. I’m looking forward to the Sydney derby this weekend which I’ll also be at and ideally a crowd in the sort of 25,000-30,000 range. There’s no doubt we can do more. Generating growth is obviously the priority and engagement and visibility will be two drivers of that.

CODE: The broadcast deal is set to expire and negotiations are under way. Are you able to shed any light on the process and what stage it is at?

SR: I have caught up on those discussions because they are vitally important and pleasingly we’re engaged with multiple parties and we’ll continue those conversations. The priority would be to continue to grow our TV audience, which as I mentioned was up 9 per cent last year and Paramount Plus are showing really strong growth this season.

ODE: APL and Football Australia separated at the end of 2020. Do you think the APL and FA need to work better together?

SR: To bring to life the growth opportunity that’s in front of the game, there’s no doubt that the football ecosystem working collaboratively together will be a key driver of those outcomes. In my first few weeks I’ve had a number of one-on-one meetings with (interim FA CEO) Heather (Garriock) and also a number of additional conversations. I’m looking forward to meeting with Martin (Kugeler – new FA CEO) when he starts in the role, there’s something already in the diary to ensure that we get that relationship off and running on the front foot. I think it presents an opportunity, doesn’t it, with a new CEO of the A-League and Martin coming on as CEO of FA to progress things together.

CODE: Post the 2023 Women’s World Cup we have seen huge growth in the support for the Matildas, their matches continue to be sell outs. But that fan base doesn’t seem to flow down to the A-League Women’s, what are your thoughts on that?

SR: That’s something I’m keen to understand first-hand a little more and test my own thinking around. My experience in women’s sport has been firstly in horse racing, where professional jockeys, the women professional jockeys compete head-to-head with their male counterparts in a challenging and cutthroat environment and on equal terms. Then in the AFLW where I was lucky enough to lead the bid for the first AFLW team in Western Australia and I learned so much from the process and overseeing our AFLW team. But that was at a club level and it is not the same as a national focus so it’ll be really interesting to understand that more as my role progresses here at the APL.

CODE: The PFA and ALW players are pushing for full-time contract and professionalism in the league. How important do you think it is to establish those 12-month contracts?

SR: The product at the moment is really strong, the ALW is the top league in Asia but it’s vitally important that we continue to grow in a sustainable way and to have a professional environment for the ALW teams and players which ensures that position, we have the opportunity to capitalise on the Women’s Asian Cup which is on our doorstep. Our longer term strategy we’ll need to have the ALW as a priority. I think there is this whole melting pot of things for considering and that’s clearly our priority, so that will be determined as part of our strategy moving forward.

CODE: The CBA negotiations are under way at the moment — have 12-month contracts for ALW been brought up as part of that?

SR: It has been and what’s been really clear for me in my short time in the role is probably two things. There is the common view around the ecosystem and about the opportunity in front of us and how we can work better to realise that and then specifically associated with the PFA. I’ve been very impressed with their understanding of the requirements for growth to grow the game and therefore the opportunity for their players.

CODE: While we are on the CBA – Stephen Conroy announced plans for a hard salary cap ($3 million) starting next season for the men’s competition. Is this still going ahead?

SR: We’re in ongoing and positive conversations with the PFA and we’ll continue to work through those to ideally achieve a collaborative outcome in the term but I can’t comment on individual aspects.
 
3 million i believe is avondales current wage budget announced on football s for perspective

If we have transfers i kind of wish there was room to grow, have a luxury tax so that clubs that get good at revenue can grow without making the league too unequal
 
All a bit of a word salad, which is ok as he's just started the role. But if he's still dodging specifics in 6 months time then I'll be worried.

Why would they make the $3m cap if they haven't already done a TV deal? It doesn't add up or it does just by them confirming it. Next TV deal will be a flop.

I feel like it's a rock bottom number that the league can afford and survive on. Even if the broadcast dollars go up, we don't want to start going nuts spending again.

The $3m figure, it doesn't seem like we'll be losing much from what we already have. Designated players range from $300-600k, there are two of those slots. So the cap rises $750k to cover that. The marquee is still outside the cap.

All in all, we really only lose the second marquee spot. And which clubs actually use two marquees? If they have then they aren't exactly selling the league imo, because I couldn't tell you any with two.
 
All a bit of a word salad, which is ok as he's just started the role. But if he's still dodging specifics in 6 months time then I'll be worried.



I feel like it's a rock bottom number that the league can afford and survive on. Even if the broadcast dollars go up, we don't want to start going nuts spending again.

The $3m figure, it doesn't seem like we'll be losing much from what we already have. Designated players range from $300-600k, there are two of those slots. So the cap rises $750k to cover that. The marquee is still outside the cap.

All in all, we really only lose the second marquee spot. And which clubs actually use two marquees? If they have then they aren't exactly selling the league imo, because I couldn't tell you any with two.
4.8mil is the current average

If half of teams have a marquee thats on average on a million dollar salary the average is probably around 3.6mil, so a 1.2mil cut
 
I dont mind the cut, but with a hard cap the system is so inflexible i dont see how it grows or what the incentive for growth is

I Dont see how we get into a virtuous cycle where growth leads to reinvestment which leads to growth which leads to reinvestment
 
I dont mind the cut, but with a hard cap the system is so inflexible i dont see how it grows or what the incentive for growth is

I Dont see how we get into a virtuous cycle where growth leads to reinvestment which leads to growth which leads to reinvestment
I think a hard salary cap will end up doing more harm than good for the league because we won't be able to attract top-tier talent since they'll be reluctant to take a pay cut, and I totally agree that it will eventually end up hindering future growth of the league.
 
The A-League has been around since 2005, that's 20 years and in those 20 years we have never seen the cap above $3m which is a joke. We lose players going to Thailand or Vietnam or India because they pay more yet the ALM is a better league then the ones i mention.
NRL/AFL and even Netball have had increased TV revenue over the past 20 years which they can pay players better money so why hasn't the ALM grown? 20 odd years and we are still stuck at $3m a club its a fken joke absolutely no growth at all.
Look Im all for Youth, love seeing kids get out there and shine in the ALM however when it comes to ACL/2 we just lack the quality needed to go all the way that imports bring. Sure CCM won the ACL2 with a bunch of kids but had two great imports same as when WSW won the ACL.
 
I think a hard salary cap will end up doing more harm than good for the league because we won't be able to attract top-tier talent since they'll be reluctant to take a pay cut, and I totally agree that it will eventually end up hindering future growth of the league.
We aren't attracting top tier talent anyway
 
4.8mil is the current average

If half of teams have a marquee thats on average on a million dollar salary the average is probably around 3.6mil, so a 1.2mil cut

Going by the PFA report for last season, TPP was $58.3m, divide by 13 clubs = $4.48m average. The cap was $2.25-$2.6m.

The TPP includes normal contracts "plus six concessional categories", which from memory would be marquees, designated, loyalty, guest, scholarship... and one other I can't think of.

I didn't know scholarships were now outside the cap. This could be what hurts us the most if they now have to be included inside the cap.

So, basically the cap is rising $400-750k, but this amount now has to include anyone who was in a concessional category, except one marquee. These players would most likely be one or two designated players plus any scholarships. I'm excluding the second marquee because I dont think any club has one.

I'd love to know specifically how much we spend on designated and scholarship contracts. That would be what really counts for comparison.

Nani was on nearly $2m for that season! 🤮
 
Going by the PFA report for last season, TPP was $58.3m, divide by 13 clubs = $4.48m average. The cap was $2.25-$2.6m.

The TPP includes normal contracts "plus six concessional categories", which from memory would be marquees, designated, loyalty, guest, scholarship... and one other I can't think of.

I didn't know scholarships were now outside the cap. This could be what hurts us the most if they now have to be included inside the cap.

So, basically the cap is rising $400-750k, but this amount now has to include anyone who was in a concessional category, except one marquee. These players would most likely be one or two designated players plus any scholarships. I'm excluding the second marquee because I dont think any club has one.

I'd love to know specifically how much we spend on designated and scholarship contracts. That would be what really counts for comparison.

Nani was on nearly $2m for that season! 🤮
Scholarship players get paid minimum wage.
 
We aren't attracting top tier talent anyway
The league isn't attracting world class players in their prime but we still manage to have players like Juan Mata ply their trade here in the twilight of their careers, along with Mitch Duke returning from Japan and some of the Socceroos players who can't get game time in Europe returning to the A-League Men on loan.
 
The league isn't attracting world class players in their prime but we still manage to have players like Juan Mata ply their trade here in the twilight of their careers, along with Mitch Duke returning from Japan and some of the Socceroos players who can't get game time in Europe returning to the A-League Men on loan.
Those returning Socceroos will still come back anyway. The cap has actually gone up, it’s just that there’s only one marquee now.

And I would imagine most of those returning Socceroos would be in the cap anyway
 
Going by the PFA report for last season, TPP was $58.3m, divide by 13 clubs = $4.48m average. The cap was $2.25-$2.6m.

The TPP includes normal contracts "plus six concessional categories", which from memory would be marquees, designated, loyalty, guest, scholarship... and one other I can't think of.

I didn't know scholarships were now outside the cap. This could be what hurts us the most if they now have to be included inside the cap.

So, basically the cap is rising $400-750k, but this amount now has to include anyone who was in a concessional category, except one marquee. These players would most likely be one or two designated players plus any scholarships. I'm excluding the second marquee because I dont think any club has one.

I'd love to know specifically how much we spend on designated and scholarship contracts. That would be what really counts for comparison.

Nani was on nearly $2m for that season! 🤮
i'm curious about scholarship contracts. There are pros and cons surely

scholarship players get pretty crappy transfer fees
 
The league isn't attracting world class players in their prime but we still manage to have players like Juan Mata ply their trade here in the twilight of their careers, along with Mitch Duke returning from Japan and some of the Socceroos players who can't get game time in Europe returning to the A-League Men on loan.
How you can put Juan Mata and Mitch Duke in the same sentence, is beyond me! (although, i just did as well)
 
The cap has actually gone up, it’s just that there’s only one marquee now.
Cap has gone up, but other exemptions will also be dropped. Initially this probably would just even out and make little (if any) difference.
Not sure how many long term Loyalty players are in the league at the moment, but a good example is Rhyan Grant. Due to him being with SFC for 10+ years, it means 50% of his salary is currently exempt from the cap. Next year, his entire salary will be counted in the cap. The increased cap will be able to absorb it, but it could be a disadvantage when compared to other clubs that may be currently utilising less exemptions.
 


Key take always..tis a softball interview ,,,

They have a short list for the sale of the Mariners hopefully finalised by end of February could go into March.

He hopes Western United are back next season,

Hopes Canberra can get a team,

They have a number of interested parties the next media deal

A-L needs to develop a structure on player transfer markets to increase revenue

FA & APL need to work together.

The women's game is important
 


Key take always..tis a softball interview ,,,

They have a short list for the sale of the Mariners hopefully finalised by end of February could go into March.

He hopes Western United are back next season,

Hopes Canberra can get a team,

They have a number of interested parties the next media deal

A-L needs to develop a structure on player transfer markets to increase revenue

FA & APL need to work together.

The women's game is important

Seems like the ‘same old, same old’.
 
Seems like the ‘same old, same old’.
Not sure the structure of the league is set to change...

Its more how he manages what he has...ie sale of the Mariners, next media deal, next PFA agreement, Western United, Connection with players base etc...

In short the CEO managers what the broad give him....wholesale changes are with the APL broad not management...
 
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