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libelous said:
There is a huge market out there for women’s sports and I don’t think football is taking advantage of it.
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Agree that the APL is not capitalising on Matildas mania, nor the popularity of women's sports in general especially given the fact that the Matildas were the second most watched over the past year after the AFL.
 
rebelliousfeminist974 said:
Agree that the APL is not capitalising on Matildas mania, nor the popularity of women's sports in general especially given the fact that the Matildas were the second most watched over the past year after the AFL.
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So it’s time to detach the women’s game from the APL ( who are probably more interested in the ALM) and go their own way.
 
grazorblade said:
Yeah some of the points will cost more than others. I would like the pfa to have players involved with marketing more than they are and try free marketing. I think a lot of our corporate marketing might cost more than what is sunk into it.

I was a little confused by the 40:40:20 gender split for the board. Is the 20 unspecified or gender non-binary or something else?
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Yeah I’m confused by that too. Maybe the 20 doesn't matter (which could be up to 60-40 either way)? Would be very hard to get 20 people identifying with "other genders" (interpret the quotation marks as you will).

All we desperately need for now is a pro ALW in 2027.
 
libelous said:
So it’s time to detach the women’s game from the APL ( who are probably more interested in the ALM) and go their own way.
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But would that require all the women's clubs to become standalone like in Canada and the US (except Brooklyn FC)? I feel like it would be good to keep Sydney FC Men and Sydney FC Women as both part of Sydney FC (two teams, one club).
 
HonestSpursFan said:
But would that require all the women's clubs to become standalone like in Canada and the US (except Brooklyn FC)? I feel like it would be good to keep Sydney FC Men and Sydney FC Women as both part of Sydney FC (two teams, one club).
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Obviously that’s a preference you have as a fan but it’s much more important to develop the womens game as a whole.
 
libelous said:
So it’s time to detach the women’s game from the APL ( who are probably more interested in the ALM) and go their own way.
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To be honest im curious what the smarter play is for the womens game. Going their own way has pretty big risks
 
grazorblade said:
To be honest im curious what the smarter play is for the womens game. Going their own way has pretty big risks
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They can’t afford to wait for approval from the men’s side of the game. Just take the bull by the horns. It’s been done already in the USA and Canada.
 
libelous said:
Obviously that’s a preference you have as a fan but it’s much more important to develop the womens game as a whole.
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Yeah but I feel like connecting the clubs would help them attract fans and do marketing for both teams. European clubs in the top divisions of their countries are mostly pro and mostly connected to men's teams.

Of course though some invest in the women's game more than others (e.g. Liverpool's neglect of the women's team should be insulting to their fans). It’s changing though, as seen with Spurs where we moved from being a club that had a chairman who was openly disinterested about women's football from a business perspective, but now we're starting to care more and more post-Daniel Levy.

The Aussie version of Liverpool when it comes to not funding the women's team is surely Wanderers. Every decent player they develop or get from the NPL leaves them and then they refuse to spend any money on other good players from other A-League clubs. There's a reason they still haven't won a Sydney Derby since 2019 and have only won two (I think) in history.
 
libelous said:
They can’t afford to wait for approval from the men’s side of the game. Just take the bull by the horns. It’s been done already in the USA and Canada.
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I think the difference is though Canada and the US started like that. Canada, despite having some good history and having won an Olympic gold medal, only started their national league last year. It started out with professional standalone women's clubs from different cities. Similarly the NWSL and USL Super League started out with standalone clubs. Brooklyn FC is an exception as they have a professional men's and women's team (neither compete in the top division of the US though).

It can be done, but the question is is it the best option? London City Lionesses did it, but even with their rich owner Michelle Kang who also owns OL Lyonnes (the most successful women's football club in the world and part of Olympique Lyonnais) and Washington Spirit, they're still midtable. While they did only just come up they signed heaps of good players but are underperforming relative to the high expectations that were set.
 
Feel like the next step for ALW players has to be a strike now. If you look at the PFA report from a few months ago and what that revealed...the current setup is slowly killing these women
 

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libelous said:
I presume you are referring to the chaotic situation in the APL at the time, if so then nothing has changed re the poor financial situation of the A League administration.
The domestic women’s game needs to separate itself and operate in tandem with the Matildas thus leveraging from their success.
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I was interested in this part, "the APL had three brands in the top 10 most engaged social profiles in Australian media at the end of the Women’s World Cup"

I thought that was quite stunning. I kinda fear that the Asian Cup will come and go and we'll lose the boost again over time.
 
FoordMustang said:
Feel like the next step for ALW players has to be a strike now.
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I think that the A-League Women players would only go on strike if the PFA and APL remain at loggerheads with each other regarding the new collective bargaining agreement but hopefully that isn't the case because it would inevitably lead to a lockout and the players not getting paid, in addition to being detrimental on both the fans and the overall budget.
 
A strike should be the last resort. Given the vast political views in football would all players go on strike? On one hand they all want a pro ALW but on the other strikes are often associated with specific politics.
 
HonestSpursFan said:
A strike should be the last resort. Given the vast political views in football would all players go on strike? On one hand they all want a pro ALW but on the other strikes are often associated with specific politics.
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Totally agree about a strike being the last resort because I don't think all players would go on strike and even if they were to do so, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits including players not getting paid, the entire league shutting down until professionalisation is achieved and fans being bereft of A-League Women action, as well as massive losses for the APL which would only add to their debts.
 
A big problem for me is changing it from w league to a league women or a league shark whatever the sponsor is.

Everyone knew the w league I think it was another stupid move by the suits. Anyways I'm going tomorrow night to the double header
 
FoordMustang said:
Trying to replace Matildas quality players with ALW scraps for 2 seasons will do that to a club.
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I think that some players at Sydney FC are still of Matildas calibre with the likes of Sarah Hunter, Mackenzie Hawkesby and Tori Tumeth having represented either the senior team or age grade sides, but trying to replace the vast majority of senior players with youth means that the playing list is becoming increasingly inexperienced which may have contributed to their winless run.
 
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