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Former Australia captain Greg Chappell tore strips off the batters in both sides for their lack of application in the two-day MCG Test farce.

England ended their 18-match winless streak in Australia when they beat the home side by four wickets in the fourth Ashes Test at the Melbourne Cricket Ground on Saturday.

But all the talk in the aftermath has been about the seaming wicket, with curator Matt Page apologising for getting the preparations wrong and the pitch was deemed “unsatisfactory” by the ICC.


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It was the first time the same series has had multiple two-day Tests in 129 years after the Perth series opener was also over before day three.


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In his Sydney Morning Herald column, Chappell said the batters had to take their fair share of the blame for the fact that 36 wickets fell in just six sessions.

“The pitch, prepared by the diligent Matt Page, was perhaps a day shy of ideal, its early moisture and grass yielding unpredictable bounce and seam.

“Batters from both sides crumpled like autumn leaves in a gale.


“What shocked me most was not the conditions themselves, for cricket has always been a game at the mercy of the elements.

“No, it was the batters’ reactions: gestures of disbelief, muttered oaths, wry smiles as they trudged off, as if they alone had been cursed by a rogue delivery in the sport’s long history.

“They behaved like novices encountering adversity for the first time, oblivious to the blood, sweat, and sheer willpower that have sustained Test cricket through far worse trials.”

Greg Chappell

Greg Chappell was one of Australia’s finest batters. (Photo by Matt King – CA/Cricket Australia/Getty Images)
Chappell said the modern players needed to study the history of the game to realise that challenging wickets have been part and parcel of Test cricket since day one.

“These are not the first players to confront challenging conditions, and they will not be the last.

“Yet, in their petulance, they betray a profound ignorance of the game’s storied past. Test cricket is not a fleeting entertainment; it is a legacy built brick by brick over nearly a century and a half.


“To disregard that history is to disrespect the format itself, and in doing so, they imperil its future.”

Chappell said blaming the curators was an easy way out for the players.

“Two Tests in the series have failed to reach day three, not due to superior skill but a glaring absence of desire. Batters slashed wildly, abandoning technique for bravado, as if ‘playing their natural game’ excused capitulation.

“They let down predecessors who bled for this rivalry; they shortchanged fans who braved the holiday heat; they betrayed their own generation by forsaking cricket’s core tenets – playing each ball on merit, scrapping for every run, enduring bruises for the greater good.

“I cannot believe any player left the field thinking they had given their all.

“They hurled Page under the bus, blaming the pitch rather than their own frailties. Few put their body on the line, gesturing, laughing and cursing as they departed as if the surface was unplayable. Appalling.”

Australia Usman Khawaja, right, walks off after he is caught behind by England during their Ashes cricket test match in Melbourne, Friday, Dec. 26, 2025. (AP Photo/Hamish Blair)

Usman Khawaja walks off after he is caught behind. (AP Photo/Hamish Blair)

His advice was blunt – stop whingeing and start practising traditional defensive techniques more.

“This is Test cricket, not a casual net. Get over yourselves and honour the format that has elevated you. Fight for your comrades, your colours. Absorb blows to extend the contest, ensuring spectators witness the drama they crave.

“Professionalism demands more than pocketing fees; it requires homework on history, resilience in adversity, selflessness over ego. The attitude of “this is how I play” – swinging freely amid chaos – mocks the pioneers who forged this path.

“Without their fortitude, modern cricketers would lack the platform to represent their countries in the noblest format.”

Australia captain Steve Smith said the pitch had too much grass on it while England counterpart Ben Stokes said a two-day result in a test match was “not ideal.”

“Being brutally honest, that’s not really what you want,” Stokes said. “Boxing Day Test match, you don’t want a game finishing in less than two days.”

Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg said “short Tests are bad for business,” and said CA would consider a closer role in pitch preparation in the future.


“Historically we have taken a hands-off approach in all of our wicket preparation and allowed the staff and the conditions and those characteristics to be presented,” Greenberg told SEN Radio. ”But it’s hard not to get more involved when you see the impact on the sport, particularly commercially.”
 
So specialist Aussie batters, Labu, Inglis and Weathers, have batted virtually no better than Green - ostensibly an all rounder. Green has bowled balls exceeding 140 kph too.
I'm gonna keep pushing his barrow too, as we like CA see him as a 'project player' or 'a work in progress'. Seems to me he bats better abroad than at home at this early stage of his career. Tells me he fears failing in front of home fans so is trying too hard not to. So much is played between the ears in cricket as in any sport.
 
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So I was hearing in the car Greg Chappel had done a article on the boxing test farce lasting 2days.
All the links are fire walled.
In brief batters have lost the art.
Other quotes mentioned by o the era we have all jumped the gun blaming the curator.
It was a typical shield wicket.
Maybe GC is right.
All this pyjama cricket is effecting the younger batters.
Richie ?
LFC interesting analysis.
This was not a typical shield wicket, heavily in favor of pace.
No doubt pyjama cricket plays a part in the mindset of some batsmen. Who ever saw a cut over the slips, a ramp shot or a reverse sweep before white ball, specially T20 came on the scene. Guys are losing their wickets to these risky shots as they have yet to perfect them and it is not a good look. Did The Don ever comment publicly about this type of batting before he fell off the perch. If not, then betting he'd have been muttering profanities under his breath.
 
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LFC interesting analysis.
This was not a typical shield wicket, heavily in favor of pace.
No doubt pyjama cricket plays a part in the mindset of some batsmen. Who ever saw a cut over the slips, a ramp shot or a reverse sweep before white ball, specially T20 came on the scene. Guys are losing their wickets to these risky shots as they have yet to perfect them and it is not a good look. Did The Don ever comment publicly about this type of batting before he fell off the perch. If not, then betting he'd have been muttering profanities under his breath tho.
The Don was the greatest master of them all at hitting the ball into the gaps where the fielders weren't. He had no need to hit the ball over the top of...well anybody, for he knew that the best way to avoid the most common dismissal in the game was to hit the ball along the ground and THROUGH the field.

Some great quotes in there by Greg Chappell and while I do agree in sentiment that these blokes simply don't have the game to approach a tricky wicket, there is still merit in recognising that it is 2025 and these batters are living in a T20 world. All that considered then potentially these sorts of wickets in todays game will ultimately always end with the same result...test matches that are closer to one dayers than 5 day arm wrestles.

Test cricket doesn't have time to wait for the standard of the worlds batters to improve their defence. It needs to strike the balance right with the games administrators so the longest form of the game will still be around in the next decade let alone next century.
 
for he knew that the best way to avoid the most common dismissal in the game was to hit the ball along the ground and THROUGH the field.
Spot on. The greatest ever batsman hit only 6 sixes in his 52 Test match career. Rarely took a risk of falling to a catch, main reason he averaged an astounding smidgin off 100. And batmen of his era often played on uncovered or 'sticky' wickets, which were prob much more tricky to bat on than the MCG one.
 
The ridiculous thing is that ANY batter could swing as much and as hard as they wanted to and still manage to hit the ball along the ground.

I mean the risk v reward scenario of trying to hit a 6 for just 2 extra runs is hardly worth it!
 
Test cricket doesn't have time to wait for the standard of the worlds batters to improve their defence. It needs to strike the balance right with the games administrators so the longest form of the game will still be around in the next decade let alone next century.
There are guys playing shield that have the technique to bat time and the gears to score quickly and safely when needed. I can name half dozen off top of my head. The days of the Geoff Boycotts, Bill Lawrys, Usman Khawajas and any other 'stonewallers' of the modern era, are past. Todays cricket punter wants to be entertained and if that means from some funky shot making , so be it, as it is them that will continue to buy tickets to perpetuate Test cricket.
 
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I mean the risk v reward scenario of trying to hit a 6 for just 2 extra runs is hardly worth it!
I dont think this applies when facing spin, as a succession of maximums against a quality spinner deflates his ego and morale and tells him that instead of he being the dominant one, he finds it is his opponent that is putting the pressure back onto him.

Gotta say I find no greater cricket enjoyment than watching a guy use his feet to a spinner to get to the pitch then send the leather sailing back over him, either to or over the rope, ditto over extra cover. One that does it better than most is Josh Philippe, whose game is tailor made for the sub continent.
 
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There are still guys playing shield that have the gears to bat time then open up if needed. I can name half dozen off top of my head. The days of the Geoff Boycotts, Bill Lawrys, Usman Khawajas and any other 'stonewallers' of the modern era, are past. Todays cricket punter wants to be entertained and if that means from funky shot making , so be it as it is these people that will continue to buy tickets to perpetuate Test cricket.
about sums it up considering todays world - people lack patience and expect "entertainment" this is the younger gens/families of today - only the remaining boomers expect 5days.
Richie it was quoted some days back whilst listenning to some press it was a shield type wicket having mentioned this before.
Anyway it no matter - even I jumped the gun blaming the wicket but its also as mentioned some/many "batters" are not like of old skilset as well.
I think they lack "patience" as mentionning the Boycotts/Lawrys etc heck even the later batting gens of Border etc.....
Today people look more and more at balls faced to runs and would comment cheeez they are slow.
 
Green has taken 3 wickets all series at an average of 52. In some games, he has bowled 1 or 2 overs only,
Have already put my view on this. CA is obviously managing Greens work load considering he is not long back from major back surgery. He did not bowl in the Windies and bowled in only one of his two shield games. So he remains under done match bowling wise, yet he is still taking wickets with the soft old ball.
 
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I was about to post this also from another source mate. It may have more detail.
With utmost respect to Greg Chappell who I rate as one our modern era batting greats, the pitches he batted on were not exactly roads nor were they minefields, were basicly decks that provided a good contest between bat and ball. He batted time and scored countless centuries simply because he had the resiliency and talent to do so, regardless of the batting surface.
 
With utmost respect to Greg Chappell who I rate as one our modern era batting greats, the pitches he batted on were not exactly roads nor were they minefields, were basicly decks that provided a good contest between bat and ball. He batted time and scored countless centuries simply because he had the resiliency and talent to do so, regardless of the batting surface.
He also understood that if the bowler bowled a good ball then you better bloody respect it as such. To not do so consistently would surely bring an end to your innings. The 'Bazball' method to take it to the extreme is to simply always be looking to put the bowler under pressure and sadly they seem to mostly forgotten that if a bowler bowls a good spell then sometimes you need to show it respect and see it out. Constantly trying to hit bowlers off their lengths and out of the attack against world class opponents is petulant.
 
Richie it was quoted some days back whilst listenning to some press it was a shield type wicket
Nope. Not seen a shield pitch this season as in favor of the bowler for practically the entire day, as this one. All comms I heard said it was a difficult batting pitch.
 
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Have already put my view on this. CA is obviously managing Greens work load considering he is not long back from major back surgery. He did not bowl in the Windies and bowled in only one of his two shield games. So he remains under done match bowling wise, yet he is still taking wickets with the soft old ball.
He took 3 wickets all series. Too many excuses and justifications for Green. No player should be this untouchable.

He is selected as an all-rounder, if he cannot fill that role, then he should not be taking the spot of one who is fit and can do all three aspects effectively.
 
You're not really making Greens case here. He has the worst average of them all. Has done nothing with the ball, so why does he deserve to keep his spot?

Whilst he Marnus, Inglis and Weatherald are not much better, does not mean that Green keeps his spot. He may have bowled a few balls over 140kph, but we have enough bowlers who can do that whilst taking wickets and applying pressure. No point bowling that speed if you don't do anything with the ball, or barely bowl.
I think Green is a better long term prospect than Usman. He has the worst batting average this Ashes series, but he is an allrounder and in his bowling spells has bowled some potent balls that have been close to wickets - from not many overs bowled.

Green is the second fastest bowler of a the Aus bowlers we have too. Barrel struggles to bowl 140 kph. Doggett and Neser can't either. Cummins does occasionally, but is injured. Ditto Josh H.

The fastest bowlers in Aus are Riley Meredith - who has taken 17 wickets from 3 Shield games this season. Richardson can occasionally hit 140 kph. Johnson and and Morris can - but can't bowl sustained spells at pace like Starc. And, neither have bowled any red ball cricket at all - have they this season? Also, Meredith struggles to bowl in successive Shield games.

Green is a far better catcher than Usman as well. In a team who has already won the Ashes, he can be afforded to be kept on.

Weathers and Inglis are only 2 runs better average and are in their 30s - who don't bowl. Labu is only 6 runs in front and doesn't bowl 140kph thunderbolts. As long as Webster plays, who can bowl long accurate spells of medium- fast of 123-129kph, Green can be kept on as the all rounder 'strike' pace bowler.

I watch a lot of Shield live and see all states play each season. There aren't a plethora of Shield batters banging the door down - and - definitely not Green's age of 26.
 
So I was hearing in the car Greg Chappel had done a article on the boxing test farce lasting 2days.
All the links are fire walled.
In brief batters have lost the art.
Other quotes mentioned by o the era we have all jumped the gun blaming the curator.
It was a typical shield wicket.
Maybe GC is right.
All this pyjama cricket is effecting the younger batters.
Richie ?
Geoff Boycott agrees with Greg C, LFC.

My favourite cricket podcast of English Sky - Nassar Hussain, Athers and Stu Broad - consider modern pitches seam more than they did, but also discuss the lack of defence and inability of players playing across all three formats struggling to be patient on tougher wickets.
 
He took 3 wickets all series. Too many excuses and justifications for Green. No player should be this untouchable.

He is selected as an all-rounder, if he cannot fill that role, then he should not be taking the spot of one who is fit and can do all three aspects effectively.
Green has played at 3 and is recognised as a future top order batter.

He is easily the youngest incumbent at age 26 too.

The gen public don't tend to see it, but Green made runs in the Windies on tough wickets this year.
 
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Former Australia captain Greg Chappell tore strips off the batters in both sides for their lack of application in the two-day MCG Test farce.

England ended their 18-match winless streak in Australia when they beat the home side by four wickets in the fourth Ashes Test at the Melbourne Cricket Ground on Saturday.

But all the talk in the aftermath has been about the seaming wicket, with curator Matt Page apologising for getting the preparations wrong and the pitch was deemed “unsatisfactory” by the ICC.


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It was the first time the same series has had multiple two-day Tests in 129 years after the Perth series opener was also over before day three.


Cricket
In his Sydney Morning Herald column, Chappell said the batters had to take their fair share of the blame for the fact that 36 wickets fell in just six sessions.

“The pitch, prepared by the diligent Matt Page, was perhaps a day shy of ideal, its early moisture and grass yielding unpredictable bounce and seam.

“Batters from both sides crumpled like autumn leaves in a gale.


“What shocked me most was not the conditions themselves, for cricket has always been a game at the mercy of the elements.

“No, it was the batters’ reactions: gestures of disbelief, muttered oaths, wry smiles as they trudged off, as if they alone had been cursed by a rogue delivery in the sport’s long history.

“They behaved like novices encountering adversity for the first time, oblivious to the blood, sweat, and sheer willpower that have sustained Test cricket through far worse trials.”

Greg Chappell

Greg Chappell was one of Australia’s finest batters. (Photo by Matt King – CA/Cricket Australia/Getty Images)
Chappell said the modern players needed to study the history of the game to realise that challenging wickets have been part and parcel of Test cricket since day one.

“These are not the first players to confront challenging conditions, and they will not be the last.

“Yet, in their petulance, they betray a profound ignorance of the game’s storied past. Test cricket is not a fleeting entertainment; it is a legacy built brick by brick over nearly a century and a half.


“To disregard that history is to disrespect the format itself, and in doing so, they imperil its future.”

Chappell said blaming the curators was an easy way out for the players.

“Two Tests in the series have failed to reach day three, not due to superior skill but a glaring absence of desire. Batters slashed wildly, abandoning technique for bravado, as if ‘playing their natural game’ excused capitulation.

“They let down predecessors who bled for this rivalry; they shortchanged fans who braved the holiday heat; they betrayed their own generation by forsaking cricket’s core tenets – playing each ball on merit, scrapping for every run, enduring bruises for the greater good.

“I cannot believe any player left the field thinking they had given their all.

“They hurled Page under the bus, blaming the pitch rather than their own frailties. Few put their body on the line, gesturing, laughing and cursing as they departed as if the surface was unplayable. Appalling.”

Australia Usman Khawaja, right, walks off after he is caught behind by England during their Ashes cricket test match in Melbourne, Friday, Dec. 26, 2025. (AP Photo/Hamish Blair)

Usman Khawaja walks off after he is caught behind. (AP Photo/Hamish Blair)

His advice was blunt – stop whingeing and start practising traditional defensive techniques more.

“This is Test cricket, not a casual net. Get over yourselves and honour the format that has elevated you. Fight for your comrades, your colours. Absorb blows to extend the contest, ensuring spectators witness the drama they crave.

“Professionalism demands more than pocketing fees; it requires homework on history, resilience in adversity, selflessness over ego. The attitude of “this is how I play” – swinging freely amid chaos – mocks the pioneers who forged this path.

“Without their fortitude, modern cricketers would lack the platform to represent their countries in the noblest format.”

Australia captain Steve Smith said the pitch had too much grass on it while England counterpart Ben Stokes said a two-day result in a test match was “not ideal.”

“Being brutally honest, that’s not really what you want,” Stokes said. “Boxing Day Test match, you don’t want a game finishing in less than two days.”

Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg said “short Tests are bad for business,” and said CA would consider a closer role in pitch preparation in the future.


“Historically we have taken a hands-off approach in all of our wicket preparation and allowed the staff and the conditions and those characteristics to be presented,” Greenberg told SEN Radio. ”But it’s hard not to get more involved when you see the impact on the sport, particularly commercially.”
Thanks for posting this, LFC.

It is usually a paywall.
 
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Good, only 5w per Test. Prob his best season for many a yr tho. I wont rate him as even our best ever strike bowler let alone the world best, for one reason, his inconsistency. No great has ever released the pressure on a batting side by leaking runs the way he has and still does. He is another that should retire while on top.
I think very well said, Richie.

Starc can be inconsistent, but lethal at times.

Comparatively, Cummins and Josh H bowl an unrelenting line. All overseas pundits/players/coaches are in awe of them.

Having said this, if India have all of its top pace bowlers of Bumrah, Mohammed Shami, Siraj and Mohali, they are lethal on Aus pitches.
 
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