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HonestSpursFan said:
Actually no, they got better. Look at how much development came through places like Liverpool and even Blacktown. If you mean Bankstown, it’s always been a crime shithole.
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Wow all the development how good - units galore and who was behind the developing - ME drug lords $’s
I sure wouldn’t be boasting much about that.
Blacktown is ol days - the crime area have just spread further west and south west.
HonestSpursFan said:
There’s far less Middle Eastern immigration to Melbourne than there is to Sydney. Melbourne has African gangs instead, is that really much better? Anyway, immigration is a very serious issue, but it’s a federal one.
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That true - the African gangs down there are running a muck.
Just check up you tube of home invasions and car thefts filmed by home camera systems.
 
LFC said:
Wow all the development how good - units galore and who was behind the developing
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The government and council. Liverpool is being transformed from an impoverished suburb into a “third CBD”.
LFC said:
That true - the African gangs down there are running a muck.
Just check up you tube of home invasions and car thefts filmed by home camera systems.
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Exactly, so it’s a bit disingenuous for Melburnians to brag about being safe when it’s just as bad as Sydney (if not worse currently).
 
HonestSpursFan said:
The government and council. Liverpool is being transformed from an impoverished suburb into a “third CBD”.
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you dropped my comments who the Gov/Council approve doing the developments.
The building industry - as bad as it is run by Unions depending the tender sizes its the modern day drug crims building companies.
Sports washing but Building washing - I have known 2 long time private building companies another concreter decided to sell out. You can't compete when you quote 10/20/30M jobs and your undercut by 20/30% !
Liverpool was always gonna be another burban city, stoopid decisions keep populating our burbs but the roads/infrastructure can't cope.
Then what does it grow being so closed up, more crime.
Anyway wrong discussion.
HonestSpursFan said:
Exactly, so it’s a bit disingenuous for Melburnians to brag about being safe when it’s just as bad as Sydney (if not worse currently).
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Hey we're always the target on our backs and rightly so, been the biggest for a lonnnng time - its taken Melb 30+ yrs to catch up with us, good luck to them considering they don't even have leadership to help them.
 
Saw this little article in today's Brisbane Courier Mail.....

Tycoon pollie changes his tune

The Courier-Mail

Madeleine Bower



Labor frontbencher Andrew Charlton accused more than five million Australian baby boomers of “pulling a collective scam on the next generation” in unearthed comments from his 2007 book, comparing property-owning retirees to white collar criminals who manipulate the stock market.

The remarks come as he backs the Labor government’s controversial changes to capital gains tax and negative gearing.

Dr Charlton, who was appointed Cabinet Secretary by Anthony Albanese in May last year and is tipped by insiders as a future Labor treasurer, made the attack in his book Ozonomics, published long before his entry into politics.

He rails against baby boomers who amass property for investment purposes, only reselling to make a profit and inflate the market.

“Yep, we’re paying for our parents to live it up,” he wrote. “A cynic might say that the baby boomers are pulling a collective scam on the next generation. The boomers’ trick has been an adaptation of an old stock market scam called ‘front running’.

“It works like this: the scammer realises that someone else wants to buy some shares, so he or she jumps in before their rival, snapping up all the available stock, pushing up the price and then reselling it later at a larger profit to the hapless buyer. It’s a simple way to make a lot of money at someone else’s expense.”

The comments sit uneasily alongside the property empire Dr Charlton has since assembled, estimated to be worth $42m. According to his Register of Interests, he and his wife, Sydney silk Phoebe Arcus, own five properties: two in Parramatta and one each in Bellevue Hill, Woollahra and Palm Beach. The Bellevue Hill home is worth more than $20m, while the Palm Beach weekender is valued at $12m.

Dr Charlton has not confirmed whether he has used negative gearing on any of his properties.
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Pollies.....🤣
 
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Aussie icon Dawn Fraser has got stuck into Anthony Albanese again, this time calling him “spineless” and “vile” for not criticising the ABC over a sketch that depicted a fantasy of violence involving Gina Rinehart....

“You are a spineless imbecile Albanese and you get more disgusting as the days gone on.

“To let this vile crap on ABC go to air and not come out and say anything against it shows the insipid little degenerate you are.”

Although I haven't seen this reported on the ABC/SMH or anywhere that would be considered having a centre-left viewpoint mind....

The SMH did report on actual the skit though....

www.smh.com.au

ABC Race Around the World contestant apologises after Gina Rinehart complaint

Kate McGuinness was accused of inciting violence against the billionaire mining magnate in her film, “A Very Relaxing Video”.
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Kate McGuinness was accused of inciting violence against billionaire mining magnate Gina Rinehart, after she made a reference to Rinehart in her film, “A Very Relaxing Video”, which aired on July 12. “When the revolution comes, will you hide under the bed or will you know exactly how to shove a stick right up Gina Rinehart’s butt hole, stirring it round, mixing her guts up nice and smooth, to make one big sausage roll to make something out of nothing.”

In a statement released by the ABC, McGuinness said: “The sense of humour featured in each of my films on the Race Around the World program is farcical. In no way was it my intention to promote violence. My writing is cartoonish and always satirical. Unfortunately, jokes do not land with everyone. Its purpose was never to be taken literally. I apologise to anyone I’ve offended.”

The ABC also confirmed the ombudsman was “independently reviewing audience complaints … in accordance with the ABC’s complaints handling process”. The broadcaster said it wouldn’t be commenting further while the review was in progress.

McGuinness, an arts school graduate from Melbourne, is one of six contestants in the reality series, which sent young filmmakers around the world to make 10 films in 100 days. The final episode is due to air on August 9. The comment about Rinehart came at the end of McGuinness’ four-minute film, which was shot in the Scottish highlands, featured “forest ninja” Master Tom and was largely about finding peace and contentment in a busy world.

Complaints about the episode surfaced on July 24, when The Australian published an article criticising the short film, which it said contained an “obscene and graphic slur” against Rinehart.
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Football us life said:
Aussie icon Dawn Fraser has got stuck into Anthony Albanese again, this time calling him “spineless” and “vile” for not criticising the ABC over a sketch that depicted a fantasy of violence involving Gina Rinehart....

“You are a spineless imbecile Albanese and you get more disgusting as the days gone on.

“To let this vile crap on ABC go to air and not come out and say anything against it shows the insipid little degenerate you are.”

Although I haven't seen this reported on the ABC/SMH or anywhere that would be considered having a centre-left viewpoint mind....

The SMH did report on actual the skit though....

www.smh.com.au

ABC Race Around the World contestant apologises after Gina Rinehart complaint

Kate McGuinness was accused of inciting violence against the billionaire mining magnate in her film, “A Very Relaxing Video”.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
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Remember the days when The Chaser were pulled from the air/suspended by the ABC for their Make A Realistic Wish Foundation skit?
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NicCarBel said:
Remember the days when The Chaser were pulled from the air/suspended by the ABC for their Make A Realistic Wish Foundation skit?
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Yep....Bringing up The Chaser adds an interesting historical parallel to this. And it raised serious ethical and regulatory concerns at the time.

These things are really about where people see the line between protected satire and unacceptable content....

And in the recent case should political leaders be expected to intervene in editorial decisions of a public broadcaster.

And in the wider context....

Is satire sacred? That is the central question at the heart of nearly every public controversy involving comedy, politics, and free expression.
 
Football us life said:
Aussie icon Dawn Fraser has got stuck into Anthony Albanese again, this time calling him “spineless” and “vile” for not criticising the ABC over a sketch that depicted a fantasy of violence involving Gina Rinehart....

“You are a spineless imbecile Albanese and you get more disgusting as the days gone on.

“To let this vile crap on ABC go to air and not come out and say anything against it shows the insipid little degenerate you are.”

Although I haven't seen this reported on the ABC/SMH or anywhere that would be considered having a centre-left viewpoint mind....

The SMH did report on actual the skit though....

www.smh.com.au

ABC Race Around the World contestant apologises after Gina Rinehart complaint

Kate McGuinness was accused of inciting violence against the billionaire mining magnate in her film, “A Very Relaxing Video”.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
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Why should Albo comment on news stories? Do people think the bloke sits around watching news stories 24/7 waiting to be offended by something. Fair dinkum what a bunch of soft cocks.

By the way it's wwll known that a long time ago Apia wanted to make Leichhardt Oval their home ground however she said " I don't want those wogs at Leichhardt Oval" ..

So fuck Dawn Fraser.
 
erogenouszone said:
Why should Albo comment on news stories? Do people think the bloke sits around watching news stories 24/7 waiting to be offended by something. Fair dinkum what a bunch of soft cocks.

By the way it's wwll known that a long time ago Apia wanted to make Leichhardt Oval their home ground however she said " I don't want those wogs at Leichhardt Oval" ..

So fuck Dawn Fraser.
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Yep.....Prime Ministers are there to manage their countries, foreign affairs, and major economic policy, treating them as a real-time culture-war referee can look like an unreasonable distraction....

Also didn't ol' Dawny have a pop at some of Australia's tennis players once or twice....Nick Kyrgios and Bernard Tomic?

telling them to "go back to where their parents came from"....🤭

Anyway it certainly highlights a dynamic in modern media debates where everyone is eager to police someone else's standards, while rarely applying the same lens to their own history of putting their proverbial foot in it!

And comedy relies heavily on exaggeration, absurdity, and pushing the boundaries....

Keeping it alive and fun usually requires a bit of thick skin on all sides, along with the freedom to offend, even if that freedom inevitably triggers fiery debates about taste and ethics.

Even fat women and sausages.....
 
TBH Hancock chooses to be a public figure - she wants to put her bob in she has to expect satire back. All public figures get it. doesn't mean people have to enjoy the humour - but she opened herself up to it.
 
So, away from the pantomime of culture war - is anyone following the NSW ICAC hearings right now? So far we have allegations of bribes, branch stacking, blackmail and extortion, infiltration of councils by property developers, doctored meeting minutes, extra-marital affairs, leaking of parliamentary reports, political donations spent on bucks parties and the list goes on and on 😬. All the way up to the ministerial level - https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/post/tudehope-slips-icac-hearings

Democracy manifest I suppose
 
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Punchanello said:
So, away from the pantomime of culture war - is anyone following the NSW ICAC hearings right now? So far we have allegations of bribes, branch stacking, blackmail and extortion, infiltration of councils by property developers, doctored meeting minutes, extra-marital affairs, leaking of parliamentary reports, political donations spent on bucks parties and the list goes on and on 😬. All the way up to the ministerial level - https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/post/tudehope-slips-icac-hearings

Democracy manifest I suppose
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Weasles - once he admitted leaking it:
“I thought he would have had an interest in that report,” Tudehope told the watchdog. He had only moments earlier denied ever obtaining the draft document
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erogenouszone said:
Why should Albo comment on news stories? Do people think the bloke sits around watching news stories 24/7 waiting to be offended by something. Fair dinkum what a bunch of soft cocks.

By the way it's wwll known that a long time ago Apia wanted to make Leichhardt Oval their home ground however she said " I don't want those wogs at Leichhardt Oval" ..

So fuck Dawn Fraser.
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Ironically, Dawn Fraser had a Peruvian grandparent.
 


Stuff people like this. Incompetence using the political pathway and safety net to a good pension and money and then after all the crap performance just goes on holiday without a care in the world.
 
JS96 said:


Stuff people like this. Incompetence using the political pathway and safety net to a good pension and money and then after all the crap performance just goes on holiday without a care in the world.
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I had a different take on it. She ain't my brand in the first place and if I gave a shit I'd say she neither had the intellect or the experience to be opposition leader. Her party did her dirty so they could install 'Well Done, hand in the Jam Land Jar, Angus Taylor'.

I thought, however, her observations about how different the US and Australia and the level of disconnect and distance between the US government and its citizens were thoughtful. She almost sounds human.

Anyway, this is all a distraction from Japanese Melongate!
 
patjennings said:
Tbh she and Ruston have been the only two that have done policy development from opposition.
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The modern liberals are largely devoid of policy. They seem to only exist to facilitate the chain of lobbyists and corporate interests.

Well, except for Victoria. She is bringing in two red bin collections a fortnight
 
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